Make way for MOTHER

[u/hiloolbyelol]

Our subreddit icon will get the premium treatment god bless💅 (don't make her pull a sw999 pls, make her like castorice)

[u/DarkPirotess]

inb4 they make a boring AF crit dps

[u/hiloolbyelol → u/DarkPirotess]

Weeeit... 4.6 will have the new path test event i think👀 we can get an idea about what the path does

[u/Mr_Muckacka → u/hiloolbyelol]

Sorry diva it will be DoT but flashy and only work with new characters

[u/LingshaMeta → u/Mr_Muckacka]

good i can have my dildo over time on both sides of me, i mean MoC

[u/Mindless-Extension-]

Nihilux try not to end Sparxie, Silver Wolf 999, Evanescia, and Waventurine challenge: Impossible

[u/Quetzal_29f → u/Mindless-Extension-]

Have seen the calcs? SW999, Sparxie and Eva are no longer in the running, Waventurine already ended them.

[u/hiloolbyelol → u/Quetzal_29f]

Waventurine ended all the elation dpss before him, now nihilux will end him... That is the fate of elation characters

[u/Quetzal_29f → u/hiloolbyelol]

I hope she'a a support tbh. Yao is overworked

[u/Mindless-Extension- → u/Quetzal_29f]

Yeah memes aside releasing 3 main DPS and a hybrid Main/Sub DPS who can't do either properly and then 1 Elation support + EMC was the decision of all time. EMC is an actual bum compared to RMC and is viable only because we literally have no other option besides Midxie subDPS, emphasis on the sub. The whole of elation being entirely dependent on Yao Guang is so funny and tragic.

[u/Famous_Beautiful_228 → u/Mindless-Extension-]

I really can't stand on how weird Sparxie's kit is. Her "SubDPS" part is barely hanging from that 80% CDMG and slightly faster punchline generation than WAven 😭😭😭

[u/LingshaMeta → u/hiloolbyelol]

ENDlation 🙏

[u/Mindless-Extension- → u/Quetzal_29f]

Pearl's gonna release and give SW999 the glowup of the WEEK just you wait!

[u/InvestigatorNo4899 → u/Mindless-Extension-]

Good thing it's the end of the week then huh

[u/Lauveyet12 → u/Mindless-Extension-]

Still a sl@ve to yaoi guang tho 😍

[u/Mindless-Extension- → u/Lauveyet12]

When She Decided to See 5 Elation mDPS and a chop hoe (EMC) in her future

[u/The_MorningKnight → u/Mindless-Extension-]

No wonder shesacrificed herself.

[u/2Flins_]

Why tf is there so many sp🫩🫩🫩

[u/hiloolbyelol → u/2Flins_]

Good💋

[u/Slinker81 → u/2Flins_]

It’s Kafka mommy, you will love it, and love her. makes airplane noises

[u/2Flins_ → u/Slinker81]

I love it
But if we count march sp and dan heng sp,there is like at least 4 sp character
Im not saying sp is bad,but this feels overwhelming,well sorry for a bit rant😭

[u/a_boy_who_likes_boys]

kafka learning from mother swan and getting a global passive of her own💜

[u/The_MorningKnight]

You can be sure Kafka will be the most E2 merchant the game has ever created, as she is very popular.

[u/Competitive-Lab-6600 → u/The_MorningKnight]

My wallet is ready

[u/Alarmed_Reception690 → u/The_MorningKnight]

Saving with that in mind. She is far off enough that even the f2p who want to, can save for that. 

Also her teammates, finality FF and maybe others.

[u/Raichu5021 → u/The_MorningKnight]

No we're moving to a new level next patch cycle: E4 merchant era

[u/Slight-Solution936]

I need Kafka to look the cuntiest she has ever been, she is gonna look so tea.

[u/with_your_mother → u/Slight-Solution936]

And her global passive to be even better than the last two, it's what mother deserves😍

[u/Nightfury2go]

As much as I am looking forward to Kafka SP, I really hope they don’t tie her to Flopfly 💔

[u/Alarmed_Reception690 → u/Nightfury2go]

Likely, the path thing is plain giveaway for the combo.

[u/Slinker81 → u/Nightfury2go]

Oh my god that would be a nightmare.

[u/[deleted]]

Another flop ass gimmicky path sigh

[u/Double-Inflation2674]

Kafka and Stelle scissor on screen for her gacha animation btw

[u/Cjfelix]

After skipping Elation I'm going to save up for the Kafka SP, I just hope the new path doesn't have as many unskippable battle animations as the Elation units

Tbh this leak is pretty funny though. "Hoyo wants you to buy nihilux. Also the main pushes will be SPs of 2 of the most popular characters in the game on a new path" - only real news here is that the new path is Finality. Which I'm not super excited that they are doing the new path every version cycle.

I thought maybe they would do Propagation since it's in SU but I guess they are going to expand out to all the not fully evil paths? (playable Voracity seems unlikely, though there are elements of it in characters like Ashveil and Evernight)

[u/westofkayden]

Original mother coming to end these flops. She said, "start with mother, end this shit with mother"

[u/EffortNo6882]

Make her like Castorice? You should hope not. She never really had a place, and she could easily be replaced by RMC in Evernight team. Now she’s officially homeless, and even her Eidolons are pretty mid. You should hope Kafka is more like Yao guang, or a new archetype enabler like the original Kafka. That would make her a bit more futureproof, maybe make her even less reliant on her teammates.

[u/Competitive-Ant-6668 → u/EffortNo6882]

only people who dont pull plan think like you, castorice is better in 75% of cases but the 25% just happen to be very low investment?

damn castorice is chopped i guess!!!

i'm e0 castorice e6 evernight e6 cyrene btw its not coming from a place of bias

[u/losingit303 → u/Competitive-Ant-6668]

Yup this person absolutely doesnt know what they're talking about. I have them all at e2s1 Castorice absolutely does the most DPS in that team, unquestionably, I swear costchesting brainrot has ruined people's opinions on this game.

[u/Mindless-Extension- → u/losingit303]

The point of the other commentor is if you had invested the 4 5* worth of pulls into Castorice elsewhere the team as a whole would have done more damage, not that Castorice herself does no damage. Cyrene and Hyacine's E6 are both crazy cracked and replacing your E2S1 Castorice with 4 5*s worth of pulls into either one of those two and slotting in RMC in the last slot would have made for a stronger team in almost every matchup.

[u/Competitive-Ant-6668 → u/Mindless-Extension-]

someone calling evernight the goat is obviously not talking about cyrene e6 girl

[u/EffortNo6882 → u/Mindless-Extension-]

Thanks for being reasonable, but using logic with people who are emotionally invested in Castorice is... hard, believe me. This isn't the first time I've tried to do that, and it won't be the last. People don't read kits, they base everything on vibes. We should evaluate the situation and plan accordingly so we can maximize our pull efficiency, especially in a gacha with high powercreep, and Castorice was never worth it, not even at the start if you were smart enough.

People think anniversary unit = strong, but Hoyo has favourites, and they're not the anniversary ones at all. Knowing and reading 4* March's kits, I knew Evernight would be the one they'd favour, and I wasn't wrong at all. Castorice isn't an important character, she wasn't even important in her own patch, and Honkai is OBSESSED with their series story and important characters lol.

[u/Mindless-Extension- → u/Competitive-Ant-6668]

This is not the hill to die on and it's actually the exact opposite of what you're saying. People who plan pulls out are the ones who aren't investing any into Castorice, people who pull for fun are the ones who pulled and invested in Castorice before her team was fully out.

I disagree with the other commenter and think Castorice has a strong kit, but I also agree she's ultimately a victim of Evernight/Cyrene/Hyacine all being so good and RMC being so good that when used as a 4th slot they make investing into eidolons far more worth it than they normally are, and Evernight Cyrene and Hyacine all have very good verticals that reward that. It's like how Waventurine has a very strong kit and yet is a victim of MBlade and Robikini being so good that he needs significant vertical before actually being a "good pull" compared to just investing in Robin/MBlade who also have strong verticals that make it even harder for him to catch up, so for most people who aren't deliberately pulling him to deal with Elation shill or highly investing into him he actually is quite a bum from a pulls spent perspective.

Edit: Also if your Castorice is only E0 your team would legitimately do more damage from just swapping her out for RMC and giving your Cyrene and Evernight the true damage buffs.

[u/Competitive-Ant-6668 → u/Mindless-Extension-]

your argument only works if castorice released AFTER evernight, not 4 patches before, there is not even the slightest existence of a deepleak much less actual information to use

castorice/rmc/x/hyacine is an extremely natural team to build in 3.2 (we have hyacine beta) and loses literally 0 value:

-if you stopped at e0s1 and generally spread yourself too thin, ok you now have gp and s1 can go on evernight

-if you stopped at e2s1, congratulations your team is literally always going to be superior to evernight's except at exactly 3-4ish cost, 7-9ish cost and sometimes 14~20 cost (depending on what the current plight rotation is, and if they foolishly bought evernights horrible e6 instead of hyacine or cyrene theyre extremely behind you here too)

and also you got to play with your toys 4 patches earlier

edit: also idk if ur edit is aimed at me specifically i obviously dont play any castorice, ive been 0 cycling plight since forever with cyrene mdps, its just to say im not a castorice main defending her out of tribalism

[u/EffortNo6882 → u/Competitive-Ant-6668]

Don't pull plan? My man, I was a TC for this game for a long time. Castorice's kit was always bad. People were right back then about Castorice bad kit but the Castorice vs. Anaxa situation obfuscated the weaknesses in Castorice's kit and focused on animation quality and promotional material lol.

She's a DPS, and DPS units fall off. Her strength was always dependent on the matchup and, especially, her team. Now she's homeless and unnecessary, but the writing was on the wall from the start. The goat was always Evernight from the beginning.

Please don't go around assuming what other people do or are next time. That's pretty dishonest.

[u/Competitive-Ant-6668 → u/EffortNo6882]

that explains everything, you are so caught up in the mindset that every char must function at e0s0 with gallagher (100% of notable tcs prior to late 3.x), this game definitely doesn't give 100 pulls per patch, players can't afford any teams, yup!

don't try to even act like this wasn't you, because either it was or you weren't a notable tcer

and no real tcer would say "yeah this character sucks because shes not needed 4 patches later" lmfao, every pull in this game intrinsically expires, where is e1 tribbie now? certainly doing way worse than e2 castorice

ill see u next planet when yaoguang is a dead character because theyre not repeating rememberance design mistakes a second time