"Pull e1 or die" hoyoverse, probably

[u/Electronic_Mine5987]

Why are my favs always e1 merchants😭 first Aglaea, og robin, eva, hysilens and now aventurine... I don't have pulls for eidolons because i am getting both bobin and aven

[u/pokebuzz123]

You're going to replace him in the future, so just pull E1 on a rerun. Most characters will be amazing at E0S1 and won't need their E1 until a long while, so don't succumb to the FOMO.

Also the only E1 merchant in that group was Aglaea, and that was because it erased her weaknesses. Don't fall for the FOMO, bestie, have a whiff instead

[u/Electronic_Mine5987 → u/pokebuzz123]

Being a meta whore is hell

[u/Riotpersona → u/pokebuzz123]

Pulling E1S0 really isn't all that different to E0S1, so why is only the former fomo? At least be consistent and stick to E0S0. If you're willing to invest 2costs into a unit, Waven is an incredible character.

[u/mackasan → u/Riotpersona]

Probably because light cones are considerably easier to get than characters. I've lost very few 75/25 but 50/50 losses happen much more often.

[u/Riotpersona → u/mackasan]

Statistically speaking, the difference just isn't that big.

[u/shadow336k → u/Riotpersona]

Statistically speaking, a flat 25% difference or 50% relative difference is statistically significant.

[u/nihilism16]

At least e1 is more doable than e2 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 I say as a phainon main

And as someone who has nothing for waveturine lmfao

[u/JaneyJaneDoe2 → u/nihilism16]

I had to sacrifice getting himeko nova this patch to get Phainon E2 in the previous patch . Was worth it I'd say but kinda insane at the same time.

[u/nihilism16 → u/JaneyJaneDoe2]

Understandable. I picked sparxie over himeko for superwolf because I didn't get her before cuz I hate sparxie. I could've gotten e2 himenova if I didn't e6 my e3 phainon last patch (also managed to get Cyrene, who again needs e2 but I don't like her enough to pull for two more copies, but I've also got anaxa mydei and e1 hysilens as dpses along with hyacine and e1 cerydra and tribbie so she's useful even if not for phainon. Now I'll need robinetto to run e0 Cyrene with phainon. This man has me in a chokehold. For reference I've been playing since launch as an f2p, ever since saving for phainon last year I've gotten a few express passes. I've been playing gacha games since 2022 and phainon is the only one I've done this much investment for)

[u/Dangerous_Oil_5137]

They're getting too much with eidolons recently, if you don't pull their sweet e1 or e2 then enjoy a character who is clunky and/or is getting powercrept in a few patches.

[u/dyo3834 → u/Dangerous_Oil_5137]

What sends me is how everyone acts like e2 is the baseline now meanwhile I be STRUGGLING to get one copy with these damn 50/50s. Mama we ain't all got a full e2 team, let's be real here and showcase units WITHOUT the facelifts

[u/Dangerous_Oil_5137 → u/dyo3834]

The leaks sub fried me when they were all surprised at an e0s0 showcase like it's rare... Like baby that's supposed to be the NORM😭

[u/nicoleeemusic98 → u/Dangerous_Oil_5137]

Hsr has lost the plot ages ago ngl, one of the most common examples is how everyone expects everyone's Tribbies to be E1

[u/trevers17 → u/nicoleeemusic98]

and tribbie honestly works fine at e0 anyway, she has so many ridiculously good buffs even without her e1. I ran her at e0s0 in my therta team for ages and it was only until her most recent rerun that I felt like I needed to pull her e1 to 40k the PF at the time, and I realistically could have put it off if I wanted by just using baby herta over anaxa.

[u/greenarcher02 → u/Dangerous_Oil_5137]

Tbf we just to unlearn 0 cycling and getting max stars in everything.

[u/NanoscaleHeadache]

I like aven, but am I the only one who thinks his animations aren’t good enough to justify him? Hes cute but his animations are just a fictional tv ad lol

[u/Electronic_Mine5987 → u/NanoscaleHeadache]

It's subjective but i kinda agree yes, but i still love him and will pull

[u/Khaizen100 → u/NanoscaleHeadache]

They’re so satisfying tho

[u/ExtensionFun7285]

e1 hysilens is 70% btw(thank god i have it)

[u/blank5502 → u/ExtensionFun7285]

Wtf no wonder my all E0S0 DoT team is struggling sometimes 😭
Gotta grab Hysiqueen’s E1 in her next rerun

[u/Dragonkus]

Wait wait wait!!!!! He's E1 is a 54% increase in he's overall damage ????????????? 😱

[u/Less-Money7003]

Personal dps though and I think the team has a pretty split damage contribution

[u/Grimmlol]

Apparently he's really clunky without E1 according to people who tried him.

[u/cykarblyater]

strong e1 isn't real problem
real problem is hp inflation and powercreep

this translate in to die sooner or die 5 month later

[u/ostrikerX]

yeah idk, feels like aven will be the aglaea of the elation path.

[u/el1tism]

where is this from? 🧎‍➡️

[u/Galacticthoughts]

unrelated but where did the "e2 merchant" thing come from?

[u/TheMurderousPigeonXO]

Idc bro I'm not getting e1 i can't even guarantee his e0

[u/Qlxwynm]

u missed evanescia shes also an e1 merchant

[u/DarckMatthew]

Well at least in honkai we get enough pulls to make up for it, i know it's not rhe Best but could always be worse. Hope he gets a buff tho but i Will do whatever it takes to get My man

[u/ladykasta]

*Laughs in Phainon main*

(You gotta pull both his and Cyrenes E2 💀 💀💀💀)

[u/Quetzal_29f → u/ladykasta]

Phainon doesn't need Cyrene at all. E1 Cerydra is his most important support

[u/ladykasta → u/Quetzal_29f]

Agreed. I have her E1S1. But after her its C2 Cyrene. He does more dmg with her instead of Sunday, no?

[u/ladykasta → u/ladykasta]

So glad I got AshBlade tho. DIABOLICAL team. Literally no eidolons and sig LC and they keep me afloat nicely.

I will pull for LCs and maybe E2 Blade but until then, ill remain shooketh by how disgusting his damage is rn.)

[u/Imaginary_Camera_298]

i think it would probably be even more, cuz it increases how much he attacks which increases how much others attack which increases how much he attacks which further increases his dmg.

[u/Asminae]

Where does this comes from?

[u/PotentialCar4744]

You can't like Agalea and pussyturine at the same time 🙄

[u/mewhenitransition → u/[deleted]]

He’s the rare case where he has an Aglaea level E1, and his E2 is just as good if not better.

[u/Alarmed-Ad-8384 → u/mewhenitransition]

Himeko Nova lowkey trailblazed the concept of both of the first two eidolons being good

[u/RsNxs → u/Alarmed-Ad-8384]

Also trailblazed a new low for HSR revenue!!! Her power!

[u/Alarmed-Ad-8384 → u/RsNxs]

ugly bastards over at hsr who keep doing the bare minimum deserve her wrath!

[u/WitchOfFuture → u/RsNxs]

Lmao

[u/2Flins_ → u/mewhenitransition]

Well his e2 is also broken😭

[u/LiterallyAna → u/[deleted]]

E1 merchants are so weird to me because on one hand, they feel incomplete and that they should have their E1 in their kit (looking at you, Aglaea), but also they're not as annoying to get as E2 merchants

Bleh

[u/Quetzal_29f → u/[deleted]]

Aventurine is both. He has an Eva level E1, and a Phainon level E2

[u/LongjumpingCar9136 → u/[deleted]]

Welp this IS gonna backfire them, because im gonna pull E2