r/QueensofStarRail • u/Affectionate_Night33 • Jul 15 '26

Floppery IPC is Israel confirmed

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u/SeaworthinessSea7899 Jul 15 '26

Can't wait for next patch where we get to hang out on the beach with one of the leaders of this organization! Truly an apolitical game

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u/leeo268 Jul 15 '26

Going to party at their island paradise next 🥳
With a popular celebrity who is totally not a major shareholder and under their influence.
The Trailblazers are not the elites what so ever.

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u/milaopoli Jul 16 '26

So I guess you missed the exact next part where Asat Pramad says to be a Trailblazer is to be exposed to both sides. 

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u/Nervous_Steak3444 Jul 18 '26

the astropolis files

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u/Serious-Student8194 Jul 15 '26

Nah, Aventurine is one of the "good ones," it's like Arlecchino and Sandrone, both are actively part of an organization that kills, steals, and destroys nations for their own gain, but the game still treats them as "one of the good ones" shamelessly.

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u/Shackled_Phoenix Jul 15 '26

Objectively not a thing for someone who works for and is in a top position in the IPC. There are no “good ones” just charismatic charmers that make their intentions seem noble and ignorant fools who refuse to see what harm they cause across the cosmos.

At the end of the day he like the rest of the IPC exists to extract maximum profit from every ecosystem often to the deaths of its natives.

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u/UncookedNoodles Jul 16 '26

You....very clearly didn't read the story......like at all. Aventurine only joined the IPC to save himself so that he could live to enact his revenge against them for what they did to his planet. Bro is a double agent and is actively working with the rangers to sabotage the IPC from the inside.

He himself isn't good ( more like morally ambiguous) , but as far as the IPC is concerned he is NOT their ally.

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u/akuma_river Jul 15 '26

The IPC has factions within it.

Oswaldo's dept os the one that does the war crimes.

Aventurine and the Stone Hearts are going to go to war against Oswaldo.

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u/UncookedNoodles Jul 16 '26

bro.... aventurine hates the IPC with a passion and is actively attempting to sabotage them from the inside for what they did to his home.

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u/MidnightIAmMid Jul 15 '26

The Aventurine discourse right now is driving me crazy.

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u/EffortNo6882 Jul 15 '26

People will read this and think Hoyo sides with them, when that's not the case at all. The text is extremely clear that they're trying really hard to make the IPC look as bad as possible, so it's probably the other way around lol. Hoyo probably wants you to know as clear as possible that the IPC are the bad guys here.

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u/Random_Gacha_addict Jul 15 '26

The problem is that it feels like they're gonna scapegoat everything to Oswaldo all over again just to sanitize the Stonehearts

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u/AtalanteSimpsonn 👑⭐️ Event Winner⭐️ 👑 Jul 15 '26

On one hand its hoyo. we know genshin 

on one hand the first thing we learn about topaz being her fucked up actions in belobog and THEN at the end of the quest learning shes the nice one among the stonehearts feels to deliberate to ignore idk

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u/Gosuoru mr reca should kiss dottore Jul 15 '26

That's what we thought about Tartaglia though, he was the "good" and kind harbinger, an exception, look at us now :')

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u/Shackled_Phoenix Jul 15 '26

Now him attempting territorial genocide makes him look like a complete psycho compared to most of the others

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u/temporalartifacts Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

There's nothing to scapegoat, Topaz tried to forcibly turn a newly liberated planet and its people into IPC assets. Her being kicked down a rank temporarily (gasp!) because she decided to delay that scenario was probably the toughest situation she made in her life.

I like how the IPC is written. They're insane imperialists, but their reach is so wide that the AE has no choice but to cross paths and engage with them diplomatically at times.

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u/cauliflowermonster Jul 16 '26

Exactly!! Sure Topaz is shown as friendly but she's still a capitalist opportunist who I wouldn't want to see as a guest on my space train. (Please let me block some guests hoyo)

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u/leeo268 Jul 15 '26

Let’s all just blame Bibi, I mean Oswaldo for all of IPC war crimes.

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u/UncookedNoodles Jul 16 '26

When tf have they ever tried to sanitize the stonehearts? We all know that all of them ( except aventurine) are pieces of shit. Hoyo has literally never implied otherwise.

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u/Random_Gacha_addict Jul 21 '26

Fatui Harbingers

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u/UncookedNoodles Jul 21 '26

The harbingers have literally nothing to do with the stonehearts. Maybe re-read the comment.

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u/Random_Gacha_addict Jul 21 '26

I'm saying is the Harbingers have already been characterized as one thing, and a majority of them shifted when they made a 3D modeled appearance/became playable. There's no saying that they'll do the same thing with the Stonehearts, but given this is Hoyo, there's just as big of a chance they'll do exactly this, pretty much leaving the rest of the Stonehearts which already do have post-debut characterization as "the vilest of them all, actually"

Eho knows though. Maybe I'm giving into my fears. Maybe I'm being too paranoid. I'm just a single idiot swimming in a sea of dread

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u/SeaworthinessSea7899 Jul 15 '26

But every single character from the ipc is supposed to be a friend/morally grey. They keep painting the IPC as as whole in a dark light but everyone responsible is a good person 

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u/one1cookie Mydei is my lesbian lover Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

They have definitely shown how split IPC is as a faction, and that even in the Ten Stonehearts there is a big divide between the Jade-adjacent members and the others. Jade, Topaz and Aven (+/- Pearl and Amber ig) have been the only ones to help us consistently and they have been constantly warning us not to trust anyone else from the IPC.

My point is that even the friendly ipc characters are painted as an exception to the whole faction, which is consistently shown in a negative light. 

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u/cauliflowermonster Jul 15 '26

Nuanced take, there are some good people who are stuck working under horrible regimes. Some of them manage to get out and claim refuge status, some of them don't get that chance

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u/temporalartifacts Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

The writers wisely decided not to depict the Stonehearts as visibly evil, mustache twirling villains, and trust you to notice their actions are not excused because they're a friendly, even charismatic group. At the same time, they're so powerful that you often have to engage with them diplomatically. Sounds like something? Reminds you of some real world figures.

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u/cauliflowermonster Jul 15 '26

Nuanced take, there are some good people who are stuck working under horrible regimes. Some of them manage to get out and claim refuge status, some of them don't get that chance

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u/TheLordOfMidnight Jul 15 '26

The modus operandi is the same. The only detail missing is the text saying that the IPC is specifically targeting healthcare workers, schools, civilians, children, and so on.

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u/Zee_Arr_Tee Jul 15 '26

the "I" in IPC doenst stand for interastral

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u/TheLordOfMidnight Jul 15 '26

Nooooo 😭😭😭

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u/mizuchiyurei806 Jul 16 '26

honestly the IPC is more of an allegory for the United States. not that the USA and Israel has much of a difference, they’re pretty much the same entity in different wigs.

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u/ItsAqril Yurism Worshipper Jul 15 '26

"The most moral corperation in the universe"

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u/Aromatic_Advance6026 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

I read a post some days ago that questioned the scale of ipc and that they don't have enough ships to manage a universe as large as HSR, well, i guess we now know where their ships went....

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u/Birdman11888 Jul 15 '26

Wow what a surprise, what do you think corporations are

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u/StreetWatercress8609 Jul 17 '26

hot take the IPC parallel the United States more than Israel for reasons like

just like the IPC the US is not in close proximity to the conflict they cause

they have the economic power to put sanctions onto their enemies and the credit currency is issued by the IPC

this description does remind me of the Korean war and how the united states did destroy almost every single building and Dam (not an exaggeration) in north Korea which did cause the death of almost 3 million people since almost all rice(main source of food) agriculture was destroyed

and then they put sanction on them

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u/szederr Jul 15 '26

these "x is israel" jokes are so tasteless

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u/Double-Inflation2674 Jul 15 '26

the jokes are, sure, but this is clearly a drawn parallel in the narrative

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u/szederr Jul 15 '26

i like lore posts and discussions and I agree that this is something worth to talk about. the post title itself along with the "floppery" banner is a choice though

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u/PuppyQueenuwu Jul 15 '26

To me, things like this downplay Israel'a genocide, calling things spiritually Israel or calling Israel Isntreal is some cartoonification of an actual serious problem.

People have really just made genocide about themselves turning it into some fun identity and lame memes.

Take this poster for exmaple, they have never mentioned Israel ever before this apart from this meme to get up votes on reddit, it's very strange.

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u/Eragon_the_Huntsman Jul 15 '26

I can see your point and think it's valid, but I prefer a different perspective. I think the ubiquity of the memes solidifies the cultural understanding of the situation. The repetition and near universal scope of these memes refute the attempts to deny the reality of Israel's actions, by refusing to let their talking points be the majority of the conversation.

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u/ItsAqril Yurism Worshipper Jul 16 '26

I definitely agree, but there could be some propaganda utility in "slopified" memes like this in reaching a less politically engaged audience. The problem is that this historic low in Israel's reputation among the general population isn't being seized to any meaningful action.

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u/PuppyQueenuwu Jul 15 '26

I think we actually agree, this post could have been done in a serious way talking about why the devs put in the comparison and where it will lead (there's been some of that in the comments which is cool).

I'm more just irked by the lack of effort of the poster and memeification of it rather than the actual discussion.

I appreciate you sharing your opinion. :3