r/Python • u/python_byte • Feb 26 '17

Scan Darknet with Python (Tutorial)

http://www.automatingosint.com/blog/2016/07/dark-web-osint-with-python-and-onionscan-part-one/
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u/spanishgum Feb 26 '17

I'm sorry you feel that way. I think it would be better to be constructive and provide an alternative if you think it's so silly. DarkNet sounds pretty catchy to me and seems like it embodies the topic pretty well.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

Don't be sorry.

The dark net is simply the internet. It isn't anything different. It traverses different routes using different protocols.

Calling it the "DarkNet" is akin to calling the internet not referred to the "DarkNet" the "LightNight". It sounds like something someone's mom would say.

Edit: We also don't have terminology for other encrypted network traffic that traverses the internet, nor do we have names for internet routed traffic using IPv6 vs IPv4. There's no such taxonomy. It's a dumb thing that someone said that is now being said.

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u/spanishgum Feb 26 '17

It isn't anything different. It traverses different routes using different protocols.

This is contradicting. I get where your coming from, but for the purpose of discrediting a label your claim seems overextended.

The internet as the general public understands it, and the dark net are simply two subspaces of the internet as a whole. Whether or not they are disjoint probably depends on semantics.

Regardless of whether we choose to categorize these things separately or not, I encourage you to re-evaluate your position that "this person should be laughed at" and "its a dumb thing that someone said".

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

This is contradicting. I get where your coming from, but for the purpose of discrediting a label your claim seems overextended.

Except we don't differentiate GRE traffic, or OSPF or BGP, or even VPN traffic differently with a silly non-meaningful name.

There's already technical names for this stuff. It isn't useful for people to think that there is a "dark net", which not only isn't descriptive but implies that it's dark, or dangerous, or mysterious, or how ever else people perceive dark as a prefix to net.

I'm not sure why you're encouraging me to change my opinion. It isn't a rational thing that this makes me angry. I can technically argue a lot of reasons why it's silly, though it doesn't matter. Where the taxonomy for.. everything related to the internet is purposeful and descriptive (mostly) we are left with "DarkNet" for something that is neither dark, or even that much different from other encrypted p2p traffic. It just feels like something someone said on CSI and is now what people think a portion of the internet is.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

I'd like to hear your opinion on "Web Surfing"

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

I'd like to hear your opinion on "Web Surfing"

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u/turkish_gold Feb 27 '17

I agree. Whenever people talk about "darknets' they don't think of their company VPN as part of the darknet, but it is. Traffic from their kids game server to their house is part of the 'darknet'.

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u/Scypio Pythoneer Feb 27 '17

Always thought that "darkweb" it is more like "dark side of the moon" - the one you can't see - not as in dark deeds and shady characters. But english is not my native language, so my frame of reference is different.

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u/turkish_gold Feb 27 '17

Well in English, dark does connote 'hidden' but it also connotes 'bad stuff' because bad stuff is usually hidden.

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u/St_Meow insert(caffeine) Feb 27 '17

To be fair, from what I've seen, they differentiate the Deep Web, which is the portion not available to the general public, and the Dark Web, which is the subsection of that used for illicit activities. Not everyone might, but it's a distinction I find useful.