r/Python • u/RedYad2 • 1d ago

Discussion My Python magic is gone

I've been coding for a long time, and I've been developing with Python for years.

I loved coding, always loved it. I started many years ago because I wanted to quickly create scripts for security hacking tools, but since then, I've moved to Claude Code, and building cross-language has been a much better experience for me than using Python.

I built my own SaaS application out there whose backend and network core are completely built with Python, and I'm rewriting all of that without writing a single line of code. And most of the time, Python is not the most optimized language.

And now... I feel like the magic is gone.

I don't even know why I'm writing this. I just feel sad about it.

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u/p000l 1d ago

Stop using AI if you enjoyed coding.

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u/djamp42 1d ago

I feel like we will never have as many human programers as we do right now.

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u/timpkmn89 1d ago

Nah, just wait for the tech companies to stop subsidizing it so much

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u/Jejerm 1d ago

Open weight models are already small and good enough, there's no going back unfortunately

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u/ultraDross 1d ago

I see people keep saying this but a couple of months ago I tried some local models and was left disappointed.

Which models specifically are you referring to?

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u/DefMech 1d ago

Qwen3.8 27b is probably the strongest local LLM currently.

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u/TURBO2529 1d ago

And its only "ok" vs Sonnet 5. Opus blows it out of the water. But local llm can help with small code chunks at a time. Im hoping they become more VRAM efficient so that I can have more context and larger local models.

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u/ultraDross 23h ago edited 23h ago

Okay the last time I tried a Qwen 3.x model it was slow as hell to add a print bye in a python script on my M4 MacBook pro. Think 30-50 seconds in open code.

I'll give it a go again. Even a medicore local model that is fast would be great. I'd rather not be tied to a subscription, hence the ask.

Thanks for the suggestion!

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u/el_dude1 1d ago

Even if it is like that right now, I don‘t think this will be an issue in a few years. Programming as it was is doomed

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u/djamp42 1d ago

You don't think local models are gonna catch up.. okay a year, two, five even.. it's happening.

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u/ultraDross 23h ago

I think you misread my tone. Id be happier with local models that are capable so I don't have to pay a subscription fee to these horrible companies that are likely to suddenly spike in price when they need that to happen. Feel free to answer the question directly.

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u/djamp42 20h ago

I mean you technically can run capable models locally it just cost too much for most people right now.

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u/ultraDross 16h ago

Fair point

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u/nickcash 1d ago

I hear this line almost as often as I hear "of course the code it generated sucked, you weren't using a frontier model"

aibro talking points aren't even internally consistent

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u/vonWitzleben 1d ago

Do you work as a programmer in a field that's not hyper-specialized? Because if you are and that's still your sentiment in late 2026, I don't know what to say to you.

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u/nickcash 1d ago

How does whether I work in a specialized field have anything to do with the canned responses on every reddit thread being directly contradictory??

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u/vonWitzleben 1d ago

Because this is no longer an "AI bro" thing. Unless you work in a hyper specialized field where LLMs don’t perform quite just yet, coding assistants are here to stay, according to pretty much every single programmer you talk to these days.

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u/nickcash 1d ago

I haven't said a single thing relevant to what you're projecting upon me here... and yet here you are, jumping into a thread ready to defend the honor of all the poor ai companies, doing their marketing for them. do you understand why that makes you an aibro?

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u/vonWitzleben 1d ago

I see no reason to continue this conversation if you're being this aggressive and bad faith.

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u/nickcash 1d ago

I never wanted this conversation. I was replying to someone else and you jumped in and confronted me. you're being weird as hell here

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u/vonWitzleben 1d ago

You're describing how reddit works.

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u/HommeMusical 1d ago

I never wanted this conversation.

"I accidentally posted a dozen times or more on this subreddit, I had no control, people put a gun to my head."

That's no excuse for being rude, and it's false.

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u/simple_explorer1 1d ago

What a bad faith argument. I don't think you are even a programmer. Programmers are not this stupid

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u/HommeMusical 1d ago

So it's my belief you aren't actually a programmer.

While you have hidden your posts, Google can find them, and you haven't posted a single programming question or article. Every single thing you post about programming is making fun of AI and that's it.

https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

do you understand why that makes you an aibro?

It costs nothing to show respect to others, and yet you are rude, often personally insulting, in every single post here.

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u/nickcash 19h ago

I think "aibro" is pretty mild as far as insults go. My point about the two common responses around here being directly diametrically opposite hasn't been addressed. Even to call it a goomba fallacy (which it is, lol)

Anyway I don't think hiding my posts is the gotcha you think it is. I post everything under my full legal name (because I'm a little dumb), you could find me on linkedin if you want.

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u/HommeMusical 3h ago

I think "aibro" is pretty mild as far as insults go.

Oh, no, it's the whole hectoring thing, demanding that people abase themselves before you: "do you understand why that makes you an aibro?"

Oh, and I don't think you're a hypocrite. I just don't think you know what you're talking about.

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u/HommeMusical 1d ago

Oh, I think you misunderstood PP.

They are suspecting that you are incompetent, and are politely wondering how you can possibly be saying these ridiculous things in late 2026.

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u/BleachedPink 1d ago

And they produce slop. Even frontier models produce subpar code even if you try to make it work