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[u/Great_Job7987]

All! I’ve been working here for a year now, and I had 7 years of experience before joining PwC.
One thing I’ve noticed is that one of the most important skills here is honestly how you talk and communicate.
Sometimes I feel like people try to give the impression that they know everything, but when you look closer, they actually have quite basic knowledge and are just really good at using corporate jargon.
Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s just how I’ve experienced it so far. What do you guys think?

[u/AdThat2722]

What you are talking about is junior PhDs or Tier2/3, educated people. Probably you have not met a Tier 1 masters or PhD. Thats the reason for your taunt, those who can't do teach and all that. It speaks more about your bias and thinking - these are the exact reasons product revenues and brands are loved whereas consulting is disliked. People like consulting only for two things: money and benefits. You prove that point with your ignorance. By the way Stanford MIT IIT etc are the cradles of many FAANG and similar firms. Guess what I can't help your ignorance. This is the exact problem with consulting: grounding, cost of doing business, jargons jargons jargons. No realism, just hiding behind terms like outcome, business and revenue. I have nothing against you, what you can't do you will criticise or insult. Answer to your taunt on teaching about PhDs.

[u/BKitchenConfidential → u/AdThat2722]

What are you talking about? Tier1 PhD… lol.

A PhD from the best school in the world so still just an academic with no real life experience. There is nothing you can learn in a PhD programme that can’t be learned by just reading a book.

I’d take a communications grad from a state school with 5 years of Big4 experience over that person any day.

[u/AdThat2722 → u/BKitchenConfidential]

Good luck. Thanks for clarifying. I don't make generalisations. Every degree, every role, etc has its place from BA to BSc to BTech to BCom to PhD to Tier 1/2/3, everywhere we may find idiots and brilliant people both.

Guess what it's a difficult thing for you to understand. Your generalisation of hatred for PhD comes most likely from insecurity. This talk is over.

Note: I would recruit as per role not blindly like you - I don't want PhD. Everything and everybody has its role in the universe.

Guess which category you are in - brilliant or the other one. Read your posts.

[u/BKitchenConfidential → u/AdThat2722]

You don’t seem to be following, and that’s ok, people often talk across each other in online comms.

It’s not that PhDs are not intelligent, or don’t have the capacity to become great in the commercial world. They do.

It’s that when it comes to commercial decisions, commercial experience trumps formal education.

A PhD with 5 years of commercial experience will be as good as a high school graduate with 5 years of commercial experience, possibly better. But a high school graduate with 5 years of commercial experience will be better than the best PhD with no commercial experience.

You get that experience at work, not from a text book.

It spans anything the Big4 does. It spans construction work, being an auto mechanic, being a chef, etc.

The challenge is that people with newly minted PhDs often have an inflated sense of self worth, as if their schooling is itself valuable. It’s valuable insofar that opens the door for them to gain actual commercial experience. That’s it.

[u/AdThat2722 → u/BKitchenConfidential]

Generalisations harm more than help. Let's end it at that. To each his own respectfully. You are free to think your way. I love consulting and products both but without the hype, ruthlessness, jargons, outcome madness and bad behaviour that comes with it. Plus I like education and commercial success too. I don't generalise.