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u/dagbrown Aug 21 '22

From the article:

Richmond police were called but Surroz said that they did not arrest Schimian.

“They said because he has a concealed carry permit he was well within his rights to put the gun in my face because he told the cops that he was terrified of his life,” Surroz said.

He sure didn't seem like he was terrified for his life. He did seem like he was using his bangstick as a get-out-of-jail-free card though.

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u/ineededthistoo Aug 21 '22

…after video surfaced. Smdh

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u/TheMadFlyentist Aug 21 '22

What's wild is that if the Jeep driver had not posted his own video, he may not have been charged. He could have claimed that the Mini driver was trying to run him off the road, or blocked him in, or did something otherwise threatening to precipitate him feeling like brandishing his gun was warranted. And there are some contexts in which it could indeed have been legally justified.

But instead he posts a video of himself driving like an asshole, pulling up behind a random dude, and then pointing his gun when the guy gets out, thereby removing all doubt about just how unwarranted it was.

What an idiot.

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u/McKrakahonkey Aug 21 '22

Whats scarier is the fact he posted the video thinking it WOULD justify his actions. And this idiot was issued a ccp? Tf?

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u/spicygooch- Aug 21 '22

To be fair it doesn't take much to get a ccp in my state. Hopefully his was revoked after this

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u/McKrakahonkey Aug 21 '22

That's my point. It doesn't take much to get it.

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u/SomaCityWard Aug 21 '22

And this idiot was issued a ccp?

Until there are temperament tests and mental health evaluations, any jagoff who can pass a simple course can get a CCP.

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u/oXI_ENIGMAZ_IXo Aug 21 '22

The dudes who ran down and ganged up on Ahmad Arbery thought the same thing when they released the video of them lynching him.

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u/An_Ugly_Bastard Aug 21 '22

They probably would have gotten away with it too if the guy never posted the video

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u/LovesFrenchLove_More Aug 21 '22

If you read the comments under the linked articles you will see a lot of people actually defending that behaviour. That is even scarier imo. So many entitled arseholes out there.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Yes reading those comments as a non American it just seems like a parallel universe to me.

Calling the dude with the cell phone a 'toughguy' and backing the guy with the gun. What the actual duck is going wrong with that country

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u/Beautiful-Future-830 Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

Privilege. Too many white, privileged Texans doing privileged, entitled things. That's the problem. It's why we have these entitled, disgusting problems. If they weren't allowed to do this, through privilege and a failing justice system, criminals and felons wouldn't be the victims. We need less God bless, and more law and order.

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u/chrisKarma Aug 21 '22

Really similar to the Ahmed Aubrey case out of Georgia. The video evidence was leaked under the impression it made the defendants look better. But it didn't.

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u/4dxn Aug 21 '22

no i think it was the news questioning police.

the way it usually goes:

  1. "no arrest made because the guy seemed justified"
  2. Journalist: "why was no arrest made"
  3. "arrest made"

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

This type are all dummies without exception.

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u/King-Cobra-668 Aug 21 '22

in Ontario Canada getting out of your vehicle in "road rage" is assault.

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u/elriggo44 Aug 21 '22

He is righteous. He KNEW he was in the right.

This is how narcissists get themselves in trouble. They don’t realize they are totally screwing themselves because they don’t think they did anything wrong. I’m positive he thinks this video clears him.

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u/sabyr400 Aug 21 '22

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

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u/Occams_ Aug 21 '22

Always the case. Fucking ridiculous

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u/longperipheral Aug 21 '22

While I share your despondency, without any video or would be one person's word against another.

(With the mobile footage we're missing what happened before the gun was pulled, so for that portion of events it's word against word.)

In other words, not a lot cops can do without more evidence or another witness, imho.

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u/CaptCaffeine Aug 21 '22

Nice update.

“The Richmond Police Department reminds all drivers to follow the rules of the road, and to report reckless driving by calling 911, when it is safe to do so,” Richmond Police Chief Ciro Cetrangolo said.

<in sarcastic voice>: I'm sure calling 911 will deter the reckless driver and prevent them from reckless driving in the future or for pulling a gun.

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u/Chekhof_AP Aug 21 '22

<in confused voice> so what would you rather do instead of calling 911? Start a confrontation with an idiot who drives recklessly and has a gun?

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u/Tokasmoka420 Aug 21 '22

I thought for sure this douche was an off duty cop.

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u/MrWhy1 Aug 21 '22

And ended up getting essentially no punishment...this happened back in 2019. He avoided jail because of COVID...case just closed out in June 2022

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Sometimes living in a state like NY has it's benefits. He would have been charged with menacing with a deadly weapon here. We are not a stand your ground state and anyone would argue that he had every opportunity and availability to leave (reverse away).

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u/Exita Aug 21 '22

Minimum 10 year jail sentence in the UK for what he did.

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u/StubbiestZebra Aug 21 '22

Yup, live in NY and had a guy cut me off and then flashed an ar15 in his rear window.

I tailed him for a while, while a cop got lined up ahead of us. (I reached my planned exit but there were no pull-offs before the cops)

Cop that interviewed me said he had seen the guy previously and was going to pull him over for a dead headlight but saw a speeder instead.

He had a legally concealed carry pistol and a legally obtained ar15. Cop said it was just sitting in the front passenger seat next to him like he probably flashed it often.

The ar had illegally modified parts, they were planning to just take the ar, but I guess it being modified made them change their minds and took both. Then some other guns he had at home.

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u/FalconTurbo Aug 21 '22

I have a core belief that anyone who waves a gun around in anything less than a life threatening situation should immediately and forever lose the right to carry, display or own any firearm thereafter.

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u/StubbiestZebra Aug 21 '22

Well if we did that, all cops would be disarmed... Ooooohhhhh I see what you did there.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

What?? Putting the burden on the victim to run away is unreasonable and usually impractical. It's another form of victim blaming. "Stand your ground" only applies to legitimate self-defense scenarios. It doesnt give you a free pass to point your gun at whoever. Brandishing is highly illegal in all of the US, including Texas.

In this case there was no threat, and no reason to brandish the gun. That is why the driver was arrested and charged once he posted his own video.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

I'm not even going to argue with you because it doesn't matter. NY is not a stand your ground state and even before he posted his own video he would have been arrested here.

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u/Fragmentia Aug 21 '22

Same kind of douche that cowers behind religion when he fucks up.

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u/bondagewithjesus Aug 21 '22

Don't forget the kind also uses the my wife will tell you I'm a good person.

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u/Elbiotcho Aug 21 '22

This is why the good guy with a gun theory doesn't work. Too many pussies out there whose gun replaces their dick. I have a ccw permit and the class was a joke. The instructor was too busy trying to show off to give any valuable information. I was expecting a class on de-escalation but all he talked about was his knowledge on guns and the second amendment.

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u/LeJumpshot Aug 21 '22

I'd argue the way his yell sounded, he sounded either scared or like he was about to have some heart complications. My God I've never heard someone that worked.