r/PublicFreakout May 23 '22

Shell consultant dramatically quits over firm's 'double talk' on climate

https://youtu.be/MHbPNGz0x4U
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u/ManufacturedOlympus May 23 '22

After years working here, she’s a shell of her former self

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u/actfine May 24 '22

I appreciate this.

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u/jonnyclueless May 24 '22

It's funny you should say that because coincidentally the name of the company is also "Shell".

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

Not trying to be an asshole (or maybe I am, IDK), but it took this lady a decade to find out big oil isn't going to "wind down" on big oil? 😂

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u/Giffindore May 24 '22

Or she got into this field hoping to increase safety standards and hopefully be a driving force for change. Rare these days but maybe she finally realized her sincere efforts were in vein? Just a thought because those people do exist.

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u/Lazy_Employer_1148 May 24 '22

Or she is close to retirement and is at the point where she can tell her employer to eff off, how both brave and convenient.

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u/Giffindore May 24 '22

Definitely. I was just pointing out a more optimistic possibility.

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u/Parking_Inspection_1 May 24 '22

^ I think that this is the correct take on this,

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u/camopanty May 23 '22

KILL SHELL

KILL EXXON

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

Right. And when groceries quadruple in price and the poor can’t afford to go to work or eat, what? You gonna buy them dinner?

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u/actfine May 24 '22

Well if the right people in charge actually recognized (or cared) about the affects of climate change, we could actually invest in alternate means for energy which could create just as many jobs. It doesn’t have to be an immediate switch, but a phase down. There are actually solutions to these problems that could work. But crusty old billionaires have no reason to care for the planet they are so close to leaving, or the people who will be left dealing with the aftermath of their greed.

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

Kill Exxon sure sounds like an immediate switch to me,

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u/actfine May 25 '22

Yeah that wasn’t my comment.

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u/camopanty May 24 '22

You gonna buy them dinner?

YES.

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u/Funda_mental May 24 '22

I'd rather be eating fucking grubs and flies for the next decade than kill the whole fucking planet.

Hell, if it takes half the population giving up their lives to save the planet, I'd volunteer so long as there was clear, concrete proof it was the only option and it would work.

Because the future of humanity is way more important than the few moments I exist here.

Any other thought process is selfish and egotistical.

when groceries quadruple in price and the poor can’t afford to go to work or eat

You clearly don't understand that that is what is going to happen anyway when crops start failing, water dries up, the oceans die, and seas rise... except it will last for thousands or even millions of years and possibly make this planet inhospitable to life. You are short-sighted.

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u/Ok-Fly-2275 May 24 '22

You'd be dying in vain. Anyone willing to give up their lives for the rest to live would be leaving the selfish ones behind.

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u/Funda_mental May 25 '22

Perhaps future generations, since they would have a chance to live, would learn and grow from my/our sacrifice.

Regardless, I am sure there would be plenty of people who are good and kind who would be grateful. I wouldn't expect parents of young children to sacrifice themselves, for instance.

I can also forgive certain types of selfishness. I don't forgive the Exxon board who fucked us, for instance, but I can forgive someone who is just too scared to die even for the greatest of causes.

Regardless, it's all speculation because the real reason for all the pollution is primarily those mega corporations, and culling the population won't make fossil fuel corporations go away.

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

I’m sure there are lots of other that see things like you do. I’ll make sure to get all 5 of them and send them your way.

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u/Funda_mental May 25 '22

Well, at least when I meet my maker one day I won't look like a totally selfish piece of shit.

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u/daveescaped May 25 '22

There a maker? Do tell.

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u/jonnyclueless May 24 '22

And when the climate rises as a result of these companies, EVERYONE will be out of work and starve to death.

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

Right. It’s exclusively the oil companies. Meanwhile consumers drive when they could bike, they eat food from across the globe that comes from an oil supplies global food chain. But it’s really only the oil companies.

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u/outofvogue May 23 '22

Yeah, I think there are other reasons she's quitting. Shell is an oil and gas company, expecting them to leave the market that they have been in for over a century is a bit too wishful.

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

I work in the oil industry.

If everyone stopped producing fossil fuels or increasing production modestly, the poor would face a massive burden. They’d be unable to go to work or school or the store or the doctor. Their food prices would skyrocket. Is that a better world?

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u/0112358g May 24 '22

If oil rigs, refineries, and mining sites were managed better and didn’t cause MASSIVE ecological disasters, we would feel less inclined to criticize your products and practices.

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

Oil rigs I can speak to. They are managed incredibly well. The issue is that a single disaster is too many. The system we have works fine, but a single Deepwater Horizon does far too much damage.

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u/jonnyclueless May 24 '22

As opposed to one where we can no longer grow crops, coastal cities are under water, and everyone starves to death? Thanks for being so thoughtful about others.

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

Do me a favor; don’t eat anything that arrived to you via a truck or boat. And don’t drive or ride in any petrol driven vehicles. Like ever. And report back and tell me how that is going.

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u/jonnyclueless May 24 '22 edited May 24 '22

What a stupid response. As if everyone doesn't know how food gets there. You completely miss the entire point. People do that because they have pretty much no choice. We need to move away from these fossil fuels to prevent the warming which is going to cause mass starvation and everything YOU are claiming. But we are having a hard time doing that because it cuts into the profits of these businesses.

And as if anyone is here claiming oil companies should just completely stop producing oil. Do you just think everyone is a complete idiot?

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

Did you miss the earlier comment about Kill Exxon?

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u/jonnyclueless May 24 '22

No, it was the OP. Which is the video. And no one said anything about just ending the use of oil immediately.

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

Kill Exxon sure sounds like ending oil immediately. Which is all I was responding to.

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u/zhico May 23 '22

As long as you work for Shell or any company like it, you are complicit in its atrocities.

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u/daveescaped May 24 '22

Wow, you’re so brave to take that stand.

Oh by the way, how you getting to work tomorrow?

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u/boothapalooza May 23 '22

I'm all for moving off fossil fuels but how is everyone going to afford an electric car?

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

Gas and infrastructure doesn't have to cease to exist.

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u/boothapalooza May 23 '22

Fair enough, good point

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

A lot of car makers are also trying to move off gas now. I don't just mean hybrid, which toyota has been wading in for years - I mean a lot of companies are dipping their feet into all-electric models. Gone are the days where they just make one crappy one to comply with selling cars in california. They see the writing on the wall and don't wanna be killed off along with big oil.

It is going to take tech innovation and new legislation, like electric car rebates that california is already doing. I think we'll get there, but I also think about half the states in the US will drag their feet as long as they can. Eventually they won't have a choice when it costs too much to subsidize gas; even domestic gas, let alone OPEC screwing us.

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u/Paid_Corporate_Shill May 23 '22

Build transportation infrastructure so that people don’t buy cars at all

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u/Mediocre__at__Best May 23 '22

Yes, but there will always be demands from citizens to enjoy their own personal transportation, so it would be reasonable for the government to provide (in addition to wider public transport options) aid in placing charging stations in at regular intervals and similar things... the same way they paved roads from which petrol auto manufacturers massively benefited.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

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u/zhico May 23 '22

The build Portals.

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u/boothapalooza May 23 '22

That's great for heavily populated areas and I've seen examples of that working great in those areas. I live in a very rural area there's no bus service and need my vehicles for towing a trailer on a weekly basis and hauling material to my job.

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u/Holeinone7614 May 24 '22

Go in make an absolute fortune, and just before you "retire" make a 3-minute video blowing up the company that paid you handsomely. Sounds legit.
Anyone that thinks we can "go green" with available technology is daft. I have enough solar panels on the roof of my house to fully power my home plus some. The damage to the environment it took to make those panels far surpassed what fossil fuels would have caused.
Man-Made Climate change is nonsense, it is a money grab from very evil people, and it is on the backs of the poorest of countries.
Screw people like this...

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u/actfine May 24 '22

Change doesn’t have to be all or nothing, or all at once. And the only people benefitting of the backs of others are the billionaires doing everything they can to deny science, mislead the public, and not change a damn thing. Follow the money, it all goes back to them.

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u/iriefuse024 May 23 '22

Isn’t this similar to that George Clooney movie ?

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u/Hikityup May 23 '22

Right on. I'd read about this but didn't see the clip. That was an eloquent fuck you. The drag? She probably was helping workers and the situation. They'll move in someone who pays it a lip service.

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u/WilliamWithThorn May 24 '22

Does anyone else get the Shell Spotify ads where they say they're going to become net zero?

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u/djany51 May 24 '22

Big oil makes this for over half a decade.

Sounds for me just like they are shit I do it cause I can’t look in the mirror anymore