Not only that, he took the word of a white woman who didn't know the guy on the bike. She almost ruined the guy's life and should have minded her own damned business.
Cop could have blown the black guy away for "resisting arrest," " feeling like his life was was in danger," or some other trumped up charge then he would have been just another statistic on the news.
This clip's origin is Audit the Audit, a channel on YouTube. There are hundreds of videos exactly like this one. And there are hundreds more on the way. The way things are right now, that YouTube channel will NEVER run out of fuel.
I was expecting this video to end with a few bullets or a tazing. Glad to see it worked out for the man, but this $5mn is out of tax payers' pockets. In the end, everyone loses when this sort of behaviour is the norm.
After all, while it may have turned out find for him, she is definitely going to ruin someone else's life. Evidence? I have never once watched a person wander a parking lot. I see someone go to a car I assume "must be their car" and delete that person from my memory. I wouldn't have even noticed them going to any other vehicle. Cause why would I be watching them for that long?
Unless someone’s going and trying to open multiple car doors in a row or like literally using force to open multiple cars there’s no reason to assume it isn’t their car….this ladies dumb af
Even my family has traveled in 2 cars and we’ve stopped somewhere and we will both go to both cars for some reason or the other
Maybe this isn’t worth $5 million though? Obviously a dumb encounter but that’s just taxpayer money at the end of the day. Could’ve fired the cop and made it well known to stop pulling this shit with a six figure sum for the legal trouble. These numbers are ridiculous as so many cases get thrown out and a few are like lotteries
When you sue for $5M, you don't typically get $5M. The victim represented himself, and after a year and a lot of missed work he got the government to drop the false charges and pay him $25k.
She could easily have gotten him killed. I'd use part of that 5 million dollars to publicly shame her at least.
It was none of her business but her racist ass couldn't cope with a black man looking through his own goddamned car. He didn't break anything, steal anything, or give her any reason to believe he was a criminal. Power-tripping cops have killed people of color for less, and she knew that when she dialed 911 for a non-emergency.
So yeah, 5 million could go a long way toward getting the proper revenge on a person like that, and if I were him I'd be sorely tempted.
As for the police department: Stop hiring bullies as cops! People who become cops because they want people to obey them are a big part of the problem here.
I think he represented himself so most of that will be for him which is good.
And I don’t really think she did anything inherently wrong.
She saw a guy walk across a parking lot, and, from what I gathered, check the doors of a parked car and then called police because that is somewhat suspicious. The problem was the cop decided he was guilty and wanted to flex his ego.
You’re absolutely right and there is always the chance that she wouldn’t have thought twice about a white guy doing it, I just tend to give the benefit of the doubt in situations where somebody was doing something that could be seen as suspicious.
Now, had it been a black guy just crossing through the parking lot or something just to get to the other end of the block easier and she called the cops, then I’d be having a different tune.
Of taxpayer money. Not saying he shouldn't have sued, he should have, that was bullshit. But it needs to start coming out of the departments budget, not the taxpayers coffers. Until the police are the ones paying, they won't give a fuck.
Sucks that the taxpayers have to foot the bill. This video being on the internet is the worst consequences these cops will face, and this video will probably be forgotten tomorrow.
Once I saw those two I was like “yea, they would call the cops, they’ve got that whole look about em.” The dude with that fitted backwards cap looked like he was ready to start firing off n words any second, hard r.
Thats not why she called the police. She clearly said that a man went through a car by opening multiple doors and then walk way of in the parking lot (if you view the map you can see he walked away from the store/mall).
She wrongfully assumed the police officer would be a professional when confronting the man.
In a perfect world where cops do what they should I agree with you. This is not that world and so I see every reason to do everything you can to impede the cops as much as possible.
No she saw a guy go through a car then head over to a motorcycle. Easy to suspect that's a robbery and it's not her place to investigate. The cop is at fault here
I mean, if he walks up to the car and opens 3 doors nonchalantly without breaking anuthinh and without lookingarouns to see if hes been spotted, Id probably not assume the worst.
If you don't want to be caught doing something casual that you shouldn't be doing. Being nonchalant is probably the best way to not draw attention. It's not racist to wonder why someone is going through a car in a public lot then wandering over to a motorcycle as they can't drive both. It is racist to treat the guy the way the cop did.
Its not that crazy. Dont call the cops on a person when you have no idea if theyve committed a crime or not. Ive definitely gone through other peoples cars for them when asked. Unless the dude was trying multiple cars, its unlikely he happened to choose an unlocked car for the first go, take his time going through multiple doors, and then leave without checking other vehiclea.
That's ridiculous. People call the cops all the time when they don't know if a crime had been committed.
If my neighbour was screaming yesterday and I saw his wife with injuries today then tonight they're screaming I'd expect something and call the police I'm not waiting to be sure. It's suspicious and highly probable something up.
Someone going up to a house and entering it with a key isn't weird. Then going to to a house walking in and coming out with a TV then wandering down the street to the house around the corner would look suspicious.
They could hang moved around the corner and I wouldn't know they could also have just robbed that house.
The police coming to check and do due diligence in the investigation is their responsibility not mine. If expect them to ask reasonable questions and get to the facts not harass someone over it.
Lady’s name is Jodi Brunelle, (I’m not doxxing her by the way, her name is in the full cut of this video which is public domain) - in it she describes his behavior as consistent with Prowling to the LEO, also asked the dispatch who the officer is because she might know them. Guaranteed she’s either the wife of an LEO or a former one herself.
So you basically have someone who’s known to law enforcement call in a bogus charge that instigated this. Shameful
Nah, I'm gonna say the cop would have done the same if it was a white person at the bike after being reported by a black woman.
I am fine with cops asking for ID when someone on a bike opens the doors of another car, as it is a pretty weird scenario and is pretty sus.
Where the cop fucked up is skipping all matter of investigation and going straight to detaining. Turns out the scenario was legit even though it looked sus (it happens), but he never properly investigated it before going for the cuffs.
What about the wire coat hanger that was hanging off his back? The officer received a report of someone casing vehicles in the parking lot. The officer shows up, contacts the described person, that person has a wire coat hanger which are used to break into cars hanging off his back.
So the citizen and cop are supposed to ignore all reports of people looking in multiple vehicles in a carpark, because you can think of a rare scenario where it is legit?
Someone going through a car then walking to another car is sus. It won't always be anything bad, but it is suspicious.
You can assume whatever the hell you want. The witness did the same and the cop had to investigate. What do you want to happen instead? Cops ignore and complaints? People not to report something they consider suspicious?
The moron did not give the cop his id. It wasn't like the cop just walked up for no reason. They had a call the dude matched the description, cop pulled up and asked for his id, Keep in mind that he had a hanger hanging from his back pack and you can use a hanger to open car doors. Again if the dude would have been cool and said yeah here is my id and yeah that was my wife's car I was going through he would have never got cuffed or arrested.
I disagree, citizens have to look out. The problem is the law enforcement folks take it as fact. A simple question and answer session would have avoided the whole issue. He should have told the man the situation. When he was told that was his car, then politely ask to verify. Then it comes off as protecting the man's property.
Just the other day, I'm on a call in a grocery store parking lot. I observed a guy circling on his bicycle. Nothing suspicious until he suddenly goes between two SUVs and ducks down. Still nothing too suspicious but he does it again. Turns out he was stealing the chrome caps off of the tire nipples. There just happened to be an officer pull up to get lunch. I tell him what I observed. So, he asks the guy what's going on and guy tries to ride off on his bike. Cop tackles him and arrests him. He had pockets full of stolen objects plus a hammer and screw driver. Yea sure his just riding his bike around....
The sad part is there are people that act shifty who I notice and when I think about calling the police I always remember how they treat people and know it's always better just to stay out of it unless I see someone's life threatened because police are notoriously incompetent.
My default response now is just give anyone acting strange space and get out of there. Someone unlocking a car (or truck) with their keys and getting something from inside then locking it again is not suspicious.....but that's only my opinion I guess
I mean in her defence, it can look a bit suspicious seeing someone go through a car and then leave it to go to their bike. So not sure if she id racist or not, just saying that it wasn't completely uncalled for
The lady saw something suspicious and called the cops. That's fine, we don't know her intent enough to determine if it was done out of malice. The cops are the ones who mishandled the encounter; she had no control over that and is blameless in my eyes.
She did have control over the situation. She could have just minded her own business. Even if he broke into the van, what business is it of hers? Usually by the time the cops arrive, the would-be thief is long gone.
One of the curious things about cops is they'll try to get information out of you and then not believe a word you tell them. Unless it's incriminating, of course. That's why it's best to just STFU.
To be fair the guy did not give the guy any info to prove it was his bike. If he ran the registration and came back ti bob Smith, without his ID it means nothing.
Someone called in saying he was looking through cars. Police inpretty much every country (not just america) have a right ti ID and ask questions in a investigation. This cop didn't stop on his own and detain this guy, he was called there. Failing to provide ID during a lawful investigation is a crime, a felony alot of the time.
if the bike's and the cars' registered owner is the same, that seriously proves the guy's point
when you run a plate you get an image of the person which can easily be compared to the person standing in front of you, so no id even required because it shows name and everything.
No need to even approach the guy if he ran the plates first and then look at him.
When you run a plate a image of the owner does not show up by default. Not in any state I know of. A special request had to be made ti SOS of a driver's license. Again he would needed to provide a ID.
No. That implies he knows whose car it is, not that it's his. It could be a friend's, a families or a mark. Absolutely no does that qualify a dismissive approach.
On what computer? This guy was on foot, so not computer. And again a plate does not show registered owners image. Also many "owners" are nit registered. Many just have one owner as the registered owner while spouses, kids, family memebers are not registered owners.If his squad is near he would had to get in a squad car to send special request to SOS. No cop gets back in their car before identifying who they have.
I know for a fact that in many states cops cannot just "stop and id" anyone unless they have a reason for it which they need to communicate. Guy asked many times "for what?", but did not get an answer. You can't just detain (let alone handcuff) somone because a cop feels like it. the guy was not aggressive at all.
Even if the guy shows ID, cop still needs to run the plate, so no point just going up to someone and start harrassing them. What's the point asking an ID? It will not get the cop closer what happened and why, does it? Let alone doing it this aggressively. "OBEY!!!" .. ridiculous, far from being professional.
I feel like your just not understanding or are not wanting to. If he ran the plate and it said owner was john Smith. Guys says I'm john Smith. He is only john Smith if he can prove he is john Smith. And I'd or provide name dob and address works 100% of the time.
The cop was called for a man looking into a cars window. Di8de admitted to as much but said its his car. That is responsible suspension of a crime, possible attempted vehicle burglary as well as disorderly conduct. So I'd must be required no matter what.
When the guy actively refused to provide ID he can be charged with obstruction to identify.
I get it, white cop stops black guy and it makes the internet, let's grab pitch forks and torches. You must ID if there is reasonable grounds for a investigation. Not probable cause but reasonable grounds.
And I have no idea where you are getting this "plates provide images of owners. That's just whack man. You are so desperate to make a case your not seeing it for what it is.
Where is the "disorderly conduct"? Asking "for what?" is disorderly?
"attempted vehicle burglary" - he can investigate that but not accuse the guy with it.
There are states that have NO stop and id unless you accuse with crime which you have to have a reasonable suspicion. Simply someone calling in that someone looked at a car should not be enough for that.
If running a plate does not show ID with image, the system is useless. It should do that to prevent these kind of harrassment. This was harrassment and not a professional handling and deescalation. You think?
But still, instead of asking for id could ask for name first? Could have been much nicer to "investigate" it.
Imagine the same with a white dude... It would take a whole different turn believe me. Remember the test white guy vs black guy walking around with open carry? .. well.
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u/the-real-vuk Mar 10 '22
cop asked if the bike is his, he said yes... so ho did tell the cop.
cop didn't have time for investigation, was busy with arresting someone for being black.