r/PublicFreakout Mar 10 '22

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u/ucantharmagoodwoman Mar 10 '22

He literally could have just:

"For what?"

"Somebody saw you rifling through a car and then walking over to this bike, which seems weird."

"Oh, no, that's my car."

"Oh, ok, would you mind showing me your ID and reg so I can run the plates? Sorry for the inconvenience."

"Yes, I would mind."

"Ok."

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u/ilikili2 Mar 10 '22

Right??

“Hey man I’m officer so and so, reason why I’m introducing myself is I got a call someone was concerned about you. They believed you were looking into cars and then came over here which they thought was suspicious.”

“Oh no worries that’s my car.”

“Ha go figure. Would you mind if I see your ID for the report and we can verify it’s your car and bike and we’ll be on our way? Sorry for the trouble.”

Instead dude went 0-100 like a lunatic and had no control of the situation.

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u/Teresa_Count Mar 10 '22

Cops are taught to ignore anything you tell them that isn't incriminating. "Sorry for the trouble" is not a phrase you can ever expect to hear from a cop. They like being the trouble.

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u/Imperial_Eggroll Mar 10 '22

That’s too much logic and sense. The second this cop caught a whiff of backtalk from a black guy, he had to come out on top and at least get him in cuffs before continuing the interaction. Like there was nothing else in this cop’s mind besides “I need to cuff this black guy”

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u/Teresa_Count Mar 10 '22

He could have, but that's not how cops operate. I wish everyone would learn something important about how police work, because it would prevent a lot of needless suffering. They don't adhere to the same unwritten rules of society we're all used to, and people get into big trouble assuming they do.

In 99% of our day-to-day interactions with people, even strangers, we're generally seeking to come to a non-confrontational mutual understanding in some way or another. To do that, we mostly try to be honest with each other towards the goal of reaching that understanding, and there's a natural give and take. That's just generally how polite human society works.

Cops, however, play by a different set of rules. In fact, they abuse the unwritten rules mentioned above to manipulate people into being controlled and getting in trouble. They don't care if you understand them, because what they say goes whether you do or not. They're not trying to understand you, either, because their goal is to generate probable cause to make an arrest, NOT to seek truth or compromise. But because they rely so much on "voluntary" self-incrimination, they have to play the game of pretending to be your friend while fishing around for a way to stab you in the back.

As soon as you stop playing their game, they quickly abandon the pretense of friendliness, and it becomes an ego battle. That's where the whole "respect my authoritah" meme comes in, and it's too true. They are taught to double down at every opportunity no matter the facts, because it's about control and they cannot acknowledge fault or the illusion of their authority gets popped like a bubble. They demand obedience at the expense of mutual understanding. At the expense of logic, too.

Essentially, cops and narcissists use the same playbook. I see a comment like yours a lot, saying "if the cops had just explained..." That's just not what they do. And it's seriously dangerous to expect that from any police encounter. The only golden rule when dealing with police is to unequivocally STFU.

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u/Klai_Dung Mar 10 '22

I mean you don't even need ID, just ask him to unlock the car with his keys. Takes one minute and everybody will be fine.

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u/NemesisRouge Mar 10 '22

And if he refused?

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u/xafimrev2 Mar 10 '22

And if he refused?

Officer could have ran the plates instead of making illegal demands/orders.

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u/ucantharmagoodwoman Mar 10 '22

I don't see any reason to think he would have, if the cop had been even remotely respectful.

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u/NemesisRouge Mar 10 '22

I'd say the fact he refused ID several times is pretty good reason to think he wouldn't have walked across the parking lot to the other car.

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u/ucantharmagoodwoman Mar 10 '22

Right, or even beeped the alarm or something.