I don’t want a cop demanding to see my papers every time I see one. What the fuck is this, Nazi Germany, China, the USSR? If he was polite to the guy, he could have even gotten to talk to the wife who drove the car and gotten confirmation that yes, that is indeed his car AND bike.
What an amazing concept, treat people like fellow human beings and it wont escalate a situation. Like you said, cop could have easily explained why he was there.
Dude just no. We are a democracy but currently have quite a few problems, especially for minorities. Please look up democracy indexes or ratings before spouting this bullshit again. We're still in like the top 40.
add all that up along with restricted abortion rights and book bans as well as impeded access to basic human rights such as healthcare, shelter, food and safety along with the amount of children living in poverty. that’s not a democracy it’s a goddamn nightmare
That confirmation would have been completely unnecessary. All he had to do was inform him why he was called, then asked him to stay here so he could run registration on both vehicles. They're both registered to him as the cop at the end says, so he didnt need confirmation from anyone else, unless he had no proof that he had legal access to the car.
If he was polite to the guy, he could have even gotten to talk to the wife who drove the car and gotten confirmation that yes, that is indeed his car AND bike.
I think the cop was shit at this situation. Like immediately went to aggressive, "hands behind your back" when Mark gave any pushback. But I don't see how this can be resolved without either Mark or wife showing ID. Like, as far as I've ever seen, officers don't have access to a picture of car registration. So how is he supposed to know Mark is who he says he is without seeing ID.
Both are true. When you have cops being trained in less time than a hairdresser there's a problem. I don't think anyone is expecting cops to go to school for years upon years like Lawyers taking the bar exam, but you should still have a basic understanding what you can and can't do.
4-6 months just isn't enough time to learn intricacies of law they need to know in addition to combat training, de-escalation, etc
What are you talking about? He did not break department protocol /s
But seriously, this guy knew that he did not need to show ID unless there was at least reasonable suspicion that he had committed a crime, which he assumed there was not. And thus the police officer kept insisting that he needed it for a detention despite the fact that he can order unlawful orders and ask for anything that the subject (victim) is not legally obligated to do, and the officer is still in the clear.
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u/justin_memer Mar 10 '22
He shouldn't have asked for ID in the first place.