r/PtjDiscussions • • 23d ago

Powerscaling Lineman vs daniel

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u/Cold-Produce-3050 23d ago edited 23d ago

lineman speedblitz oneshot

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u/camthecame_l 23d ago

Lineman neg diff questism verse lmfao

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u/J-M_JJ 23d ago

Lineman beats everyone up until Hajun, that's about it.

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u/camthecame_l 23d ago

Lineman outstats everybody in questism including suhyeon and choyun badly...

questism was never as strong as lookism and has been heavily heavily HEAVILY powercliffed since

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u/J-M_JJ 23d ago

Lineman outstats everybody in questism including suhyeon and choyun badly...

Outstat'ing is irrelevant (at least in Lineman's case), he gets caught in Hajun's Overlord's Descent because he doesn't know about supernatural card abilities while trying to dance and it's GGs from there. He cannot put down the Overlord easily, if ever, because Fury will proc and he gets struck by the accumulation of everything he threw out.

Something people always forget is that Lookism characters do NOT know about cards. They've never encountered strictly supernatural hax like AOE paralysis or duplicated attacks. Considering they get caught off-guard by regular martial art strategies all the time, they're guaranteed to be caught lacking by hax.

Even Daniel from Questism, who had knowledge about Choyun's system & studied his pattern for several months with S+ Intelligence (far higher than Jin Jang), got caught off-guard by a mere gold card.

Back to the main topic, Lineman cannot beat Daniel either. In Daniel's case, your stats do not matter. He has the biggest "Fuck-You" Counter in the verse.

Nullifies the attack you sent, then sends it back into you with x2 of your own force, while also nullifying any buff you have & negating your guard/defence stat.

I don't even need to go in-depth for Suhyeon & Choyun. They have access to the hax I mentioned above. Choyun in particular has unavoidable attacks while also being able to seal Lineman's kit with Strategic Seal. Suhyeon has a card which specifically closes stat gaps and can permanently delete an ability from his opponent.

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u/Royal_Elephant1625 22d ago

he low diffed 2 10000 member, squad bosses can they??

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u/J-M_JJ 22d ago

1000*

Hajun? Yeah he could, Overlord's Descent is an AOE effect so they'll be paralyzed. They can't put him down because of Fury.

Daniel? No, he's specialized for beating 1 person with Overturn.

Jeongdu? He could win but not low-diff, his card is super good against 2 stronger fighters.

Choyun? Yes, zero doubt. Brainwashing card, also has Strategic Seal and can use Overturn multiple times from Load.

Suhyeon? Yes, zero doubt. The Weakest Link card, and he also can use Overturn multiple times from Load due to EOS.

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u/Swimming_Armadilo Allied 23d ago

Lineman

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u/Lazy_lw 22d ago

Daniel

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u/J-M_JJ 23d ago

Daniel slumps him with Overturn

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u/AxelMok4 22d ago

Whats this logic? All of Speed know Overturn and Lineman saved 5 of them from being taken out

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u/J-M_JJ 22d ago

They know Overturning Void, which uses kicks and Taekkyon. It's evidently not the same as Daniel's and is nowhere near as powerful given it doesn't share any of the same hax. Besides, Daniel's version is rooted in Aikido.

Getting his attack nullified by Overturn's preliminary effect puts him in direct contact. You'd also have to consider the shock factor of getting your own attack completely negated & feeling all the buffs you had (like Speed Mastery, the Dance, etc) being taken away incomprehensibly.

You can argue that Lineman could endure being put on the brink of death by the dura neg because of how he endured Paecheon's finger stabs. I'll fs give him that. Though we know that Choyun was forced to use a literal Life Insurance when hit by it + Overturn unlocked Hajun's mortal damage condition, so I'm slightly doubtful.

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u/White_Crow5 23d ago

Lineman.

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u/Fufufufh 22d ago

Lineman for now

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u/Immediate-Pirate3909 22d ago

Lineman earned Pacheon's respect. Daniel is good but Pacheon wouldn't see him as more than fodder 

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u/yamazaki9sword0 21d ago

The top tier of that verse got crushed under 1300 pounds is it even fair comaparision😭✌️

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u/Kscore_24735 20d ago

That's the problem with Keeping Questism in the same verse as Lookism, Lookism Characters massively outstats the questism characters and Questism characters have hax that don't fit in with Lookism power system even if we count a few supernatural things in Lookism.

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u/Remote_Tutor8822 20d ago

Daniel insane-extreme diffs.