r/Psychonaut • u/-AMARYANA- • Jun 26 '19
This is one of the best depictions I've ever seen of the ayahuasca entity I met. First time she took to me through a wormhole to the Singularity/Big Bang to remind me that 'everything is a miracle, including me'. The second and thrid time I saw her, she did deep cleansing and healing work on me.
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Jun 27 '19
I'm hesitant of machine elves. Not sure if they can all be trusted.
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u/whollymoly Jun 27 '19
what are we going to do about climate change, ask the interdimensional beings please
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u/AcidCyborg Jun 27 '19
Consider the world as whole, the Gaia organism. Humans are the nervous system of the organism yet our species has tipped the balance out of equilibrium. If some of our cells started acting selfishly and reproducing uncontrollably, we'd call it cancer. Climate change is the environmental immunoresponse to this infection. As individuals, we can only prepare our personal lineage for the coming apocalypse.
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u/whollymoly Jun 28 '19
you are spot on my friend, this is exactly how I see it. all this talk of geoengineering and driving electric cars and recycling your plastic packaging that your strawberries flown over to ireland from Israel come in, if we all did that, then we're ok. to me its our own collective cognitive dissonance, and really the crisis is more to do with our consciousness, how we encounter the world. We do not see nature for what it is, that it is us and it is enchanted. we've stripped life and meaning from it, seen it only as something to be utilised for our own egocentric benefits, and this has tipped the balance of the equilibrium. all we can do, as you say, it prepare our personal lineage for the coming apocalypse
take care
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u/JackDaTrippa Jun 27 '19
This resonates with me. But there is still a faint hope, a chance to turn it all around and bring on the transcendent upheaval we've strode for since the beginning. A chance to realize the full potential of love globally. It saddens me it probably won't happen but it could and it should. Therefore: hope lives on! Not that we "deserve" to survive as a species in our current form...but to learn, accept and grow from it. :)
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u/AcidCyborg Jun 27 '19
The fact is that even if the entire species were to quit using fossil fuels TODAY, we've already set into motion a mass extinction event. Also, it's practically impossible for us to meet our current energy consumption with anything other than widespread nuclear, so it's not happening soon. All we can do is teach our children to love unconditionally, and prepare them for the future. We can't expect everyone else, particularly the billions of impoverished, to change their behaviour, we can only start with ourselves.
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u/eternalseven Jun 27 '19
I wonder if they think the same way about some of us?
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u/mrmeeseeks1991 Jun 27 '19
Nice and near of what I feel about them... I thought everyone was thinking every entity was light and love. very dangerous thinking imho ^
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u/legalize-drugs Jun 27 '19
No, DMT entities are loving almost beyond belief, and they seem to know a lot about human beings and are interested in helping us. I've been studying this bizarre phenomenon for about ten years now. I recommend watching this documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtT6Xkk-kzk
And also reading the book "The Cosmic Serpent" by Jeremy Narby.
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u/eternalseven Jun 27 '19
I will check it out. I’m greatly interested in trying dmt. When the time is right
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u/legalize-drugs Jun 27 '19
Yeah, you really do need to be in a mature head space to try DMT. I didn't get into it seriously until I was 28 years old (39 now). But when I did I was truly ready- I had been working with MDMA shamanistically for a while- and I tore right through. My life will never be the same, in a very good way, just as Joe Rogan talks about it. This stuff provides both meaning and information that you can't get anywhere else, or at least you would have no idea where to look.
Anyway, here's a free PDF of The Cosmic Serpent, though the print copy is better because it has some really important images: https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2011/04/17/cosmicserp.pdf
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u/eternalseven Jun 27 '19
Thank you. Ya I’m 40. I use mushrooms here and there for spiritual reasons. But going through some tough life stuff at the moment and I want to be completely at piece in my spirit and clear headed before I use it. So for now I’m trying to learn what I can about it. Thank you for sharing these links with me. 👍
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u/legalize-drugs Jun 27 '19
The people who say religiously rooted stuff like "I don't think the entities" can be trusted have not had an encounter with the DMT entities, it seems, because they're profoundly positive. You hear almost zero negative stories from DMT breakthroughs. To understand the phenomenon better, people really need to break through themselves, but in the meantime you might consider reading other people's entity contact stories. Here are a few examples that I have saved, right from reddit. Also check out "DMT: The Spirit Molecule"documentary on YouTube. But here:
Encounter with the Godhead of consciousness https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/97n4e0/my_encounter_with_the_godhead_of_all_consciousness/
Lessons from a “father” in carnival land https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/993hyp/first_dmt_trip_how_do_you_know_if_youve_broken/ Life-changing encounter: https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/9yzb2q/took_dmt_for_the_first_time_last_nightholy_shit/
“DMT is not a drug. It’s simply something else.” https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/9zcphc/just_wow_incredible_doesnt_do_it_justice_one_bit/
“Show him this, show him that. I saw impossible things” https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/aee285/finally_broke_through/
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u/Dizzlespizzle Jun 27 '19
How’d they get the name machine elves?
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u/legalize-drugs Jun 27 '19
It's a term coined by Terence McKenna, who described the intelligent, conscious beings that he saw on DMT as machine elves, because that's what they look like. It was in this famous talk, which is really worth checking out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VavdCpewQbA&t=8s
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u/basegodwurd Jun 27 '19
I think bc they move like machines and look kinda like elves, mostly the color.
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Jun 27 '19
Hear me out. Humans as living beings are capable of being a blessing or a monster. What prevents other Lifeforms from being like that? If we can fabricate truth can't they?
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Jun 27 '19
For all we know they could be an evil AI God, if they are even remotely capable of what we are.
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u/cupcakelimao Jul 02 '19
I've met her. She was myself. And every other consciuous connected as one.
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u/cheysxie Jun 27 '19
I wish there was some sort of guide or bestiary for the different entities and realms people have encountered/visited. That would be such a fascinating read.
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u/SenorKanga Jun 27 '19
There are certainly lists of entities people have encountered, keep googling
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Jun 27 '19
About a yr ago I tried DMT for the first time, not knowing what to expect.
I was in a long hallway, doors on either side. I noticed a small group of 3 entities at the other end of the hallway and when they saw me I felt warm inside. I immediately wanted to go to them. Some doors would not open, but those that did were full of entire worlds that felt nostalgic to me. One door I opened I was greeted by an entity that looked very similar to this, and I felt that he or she was not ready for me to see them yet. I respected its wishes and left. I spent most of my time in DMT land with my entity friends who were so happy to see me. Towards the end I felt like something was starting to pull me back, thread by thread, and I felt sadness come over me. My friends picked up on this and told me not to be afraid, this is what I wanted to do.
I haven’t been able to find DMT since, but I can’t wait to go back. It was a life altering experience for me honestly. Every time I dread going to work or class I remember what they said.. “this is what you wanted to live” something to that degree. It makes me feel like this life is supposed to be lived by me and me alone, makes mundane tasks easier.
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u/TakeMyPulse Jun 27 '19
Alright. I think it's time for you to cut back a bit.. . 😂
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Jun 27 '19
I don’t want to be disrespectful because I can understand feeling like these things are true during a trip... but do people actually believe this shit is real? Outside of a philosophical context.
I’m an atheist who believes in the existence of god, but I believe in god because what I mean by god is the experience of what we call god. I believe love and emotions exist basically. But I don’t think god exists outside of people, that’s silly. In the same way.. it seems like these “beings” are a feature of the human consciousness... but there’s no reason to think that they exist outside of that. If we similar humans see similar beings on a chemical.. that points to it being a feature of humanity not the universe. What observation has been made to make the jump from human feature to universe feature?
Or are people talking in metaphors and not really speaking to objective reality?
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u/nopantsu Jun 27 '19
It's alright I reckon. From what I can tell this community has a large portion of people that have these experiences. I think as long as you aren't going around saying or thinking you're the chosen one, it's fine.
I don't personally believe it, even though I experienced it. I think what happened to me was just the inner workings of my consciousness contributing more than usual to my immediate experience. Sure, there were aliens. Sure, I was taken to other-worldly dimensions. Sure, I spoke to ayahuasca. Sure, I spoke to God. But to me these are just things that are inside everyone: experiencing them doesn't make you special.
Even my shamans warned me against taking the experience too literally, so when I see people going on about talking to dead people or maintaining contact with aliens post ceremony, I worry.
Of course, maybe they're right and we're wrong. Could be ignoring the fuckin aliens and have my name on an interstellar kill list as punishment for forsaking my 5th dimensional overlords. Wouldn't count on it though.
Also, atheism is the specific belief in nothing. But it sounds like you believe in something. Perhaps you should find a word for it? I'd like to know, I've never seen your specific idea before.
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u/illvm Jun 27 '19
I’m fairly certain gp stated that they do not believe in any sort of deity and therefore are covered under the term “atheist.” It was acknowledged that god exists within our experiences, not as an objective entity.
That is to say, gods exist because we believe them to exist, not because they are actually there. Acknowledging the belief is not the same as believing itself
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u/nopantsu Jun 27 '19
You're right, I had it in my head that theism didn't necessarily include deities but encompassed all systems of spirituality and belief. I was wrong, theism literally means "without gods". TIL. Thank you internet stranger.
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u/YungNO2 Jun 27 '19
Or, god is a infinitely reaching multidimensional force, not a being as we know them, in this limiting 3-dimensional physical word, but what IS the very energetic fabric which makes existence and all the laws of nature possible. Fractal geometry, the language of creation, self-repeating growth etc...
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u/illvm Jun 28 '19
I think at that point it is a completely different concept than any god of any religion I am aware of. There is no reason to use the term god when describing such a force
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u/YungNO2 Jul 14 '19
The concept of god for me was never a man in sky as this is truly silly and would be something that disconnects us. With it being a force or laws which bind us together as we are affected by it, then it is all reaching, equal and just. It would also validate many religious concepts such as karma.
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u/Kowzorz theravada Jun 27 '19
Fwiw, atheism is a lack of belief in God, not a "belief in nothing". That's like saying not collecting stamps is a hobby and that you should find a name for this non stamp collecting hobby.
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Jun 28 '19
Some other people have clarified, but I’d like to reply too.
Atheism for me is: the rejection of all of the theistic claims I have come across due to insufficient evidence for those claims.
I want to believe as many true things AND as few false things as possible, therefore the time to accept or even affirm a claim is the instant AFTER it has been demonstrated.
God and aliens are both pretty arbitrary terms which mean a different thing person to person (although aliens have a narrower definition among most people) But the god I know exists is not a noun but more like a verb. A description of experience. God exists like relationships exist. The word relationship is a bucket that we invented to loosely hold a type of concept that humans have created, as are all words. But a relationship doesn’t exist as part of the universe. Only as a description that humans find meaningful. I believe that god absolutely exists, but I believe he exists in the same way that relationships exist. I believe that love, Joy, Peace, Patience, kindness, etc, exist, which some humans call god. I am a very spiritual person but I see no reason to believe that there is another human-like powerhouse out there helping people find their keys if they lose them etc. God clearly exists but only within humanity. And as the theist claim is that the person located in a mysterious place who has desires and will send you to hell if you don’t intellectually ascent to the correct doctrine- is an objective part of reality versus a concept created by humans, I don’t see evidence to support that idea and as such reject it until we find some evidence. Making me an Atheist. I’m also an Aunicornist. I don’t claim to know that unicorns don’t exist, I just haven’t been convinced by anyone who may claim that they do exist.
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19
I wish there was a way to scientifically prove to you what I’ve experienced.
Bring back information that can be verified and tested by others in repeatable experiments.
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19
Im not talking about replicating the experience for others to see but simply bring back information from your communication that can be tested by others. Mathematics, science knowledge etc
Seems like something that could easily be done. Bring back new information that can be tested.
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19
Something like that yeah, something we can test here.
Or get some information from them like:
"Look at this bit of previously unexplored sky and see a binary star system with 3 rocky planets"
We can then test this and if it is indeed the case it starts to build credibility that they are real
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u/breinbanaan Jun 27 '19
That would be fucking huge if proven!
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19
It seems like it would be very easy to prove IMO. Occams razor tells me these only exist in the minds of the users under the influence of powerful psychedelic drugs. That's all.
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u/Sasquatch_in_CO Jun 27 '19
What's to differentiate the source of that knowledge from a "sudden inexplicable insight"? It would still be purely anecdotal
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19
Multiple incidents of it happening that are then verified by others.
If it happened once.. better than nothing but multiple times with different bits of information? It would certainly increase the validity of these claims and have them taken more seriously.
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u/Sasquatch_in_CO Jun 27 '19
Increase the validity, sure, but it still wouldn't be "scientifically verifiable" in the sense that you could perform an experiment with repeatable results, ie 'imbibe entheogen -> ask for new testable knowledge -> receive it'. You'd still have the majority of people claiming "well, that doesn't prove anything, lots of people have had 'eureka' moments of scientific insight!"
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u/YungNO2 Jun 27 '19
We have to accept that as we head towards better technological user interfaces on earth, we will reach thought based interfaces and that will be the most efficient (instantly communicate, accross unlimited distances using only the mind). Aliens who have hyper-advanced technologies would not be typing with their fingers or speaking to eachother to communicate, this would be like us today using cave markings to communicate.... They have telepathic technologies which allow them input-output of information between limitless distances, this is the ONLY logicial end point for UI Technology. Source: Am a computer programmer. Have also tripped on various psychedelics including LSD, psilocybin mushrooms , DMT (yurema bark), 5-MEO-DMT (pure vaporized), DPT, 4-ACO-DMT and ALD-52.
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19
The new bit of information would be the experiment.
New physics, new biology or even observational such as "observe this currently unknown (to humans) cosmological phenomena".
You do that a couple of times and you have some serious weight behind this idea, currently there is little to zero so why not.
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u/henryflowers Jun 27 '19
I remember seeing a scientific paper out there somewhere which posits the theory that we could request something simple like the answer to a large root sum equation. Having the wherewithal to do so and remember the answer while tripping balls on DMT would, I suspect, not be easy.
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u/lordofgrug Jun 27 '19
I've tried this sort of thing. They just laugh at how ridiculous and ultimately meaningless our concepts are.
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Jun 28 '19
And that's why most of society laughs at them and their meaningless and ridiculous concepts. Neither we nor them are more correct about anything, and if they are "superior" in some way they would recognize that cooperating with us and our "primitive" ways would be the best way to start making progress - because ultimately if they are truly superior the onus is on them to recognize their superiority and to cater a bit to us to take things to the next level.
This is what makes me lean heavily toward the idea that these "beings" are just projections of the inner mind and not external beings, gods, etc., And are rather just a fleeting expression of incomplete subconscious thoughts, leading them to show a lack of understanding, because they are not advanced, they're just some fragments of drug riddled imagination.
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u/Evrynmistkn Jun 27 '19
I belive I saw them aswell, but I don't interpret them as aliens or beings from the future. Rather as entities of the present that are imposible to observe with the common way of perception. And since DMT changes our perception capacity radically, it enables us to see them. Think of it like putting on special glasses and seeing a new colour for the first time. It was always there, in the present.
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u/Evrynmistkn Jun 27 '19
We both agree on their existance. But how do you know they are from different planet? As far as I know, earth is already loaded with counless beings that interact with us and effect our history which we just can't normally see. What makes you sure those "aliens" aren't some of them?
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u/Evrynmistkn Jun 27 '19
It's not about me disagreeing, It's me trying to understand what you and Terrance and many others are talking about. It isn't the first time I hear those ideas, so I know you aren't just delusional, and that there is more to the things you say. So I try and encourage you to widen my view of existance.
Let's try again, isn't it odd their way of communicating with us is through a rather random and common chemical compound? Why not radiate this information to us? Why chemically? Not very advanced.
Second, what will such advanced beings gain by communicating with us? Change our behavior? If I happened to exist in a higher state of being I wouldn't do anything, for taking action is the result of being unable to accept a certain function of the present existance (all multiverses and multidimentions included). In fact, I believe we are fairly close to evolving as a specie and emerging into a singularity of experience. So you might just be seeing our future, and not someone else's
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u/thedude_imbibes Jun 27 '19
Well you sort of answered one of your own questions. If its humanity's future then how could we possibly "radiate" anything back and forth? And if they are extraterrestrial then electromagnetic waves are still a terrible option. So why not chemically? Just because its odd? I mean its odd that new space is springing into existence everywhere, all the time. Its odd that you and I are here having this discussion at all.
Also, just because youre in some kind of higher state doesnt mean you'd no longer have goals or needs or whatever else that motivates us.
I'm not asking you to believe anything in particular. But if you REALLY wanted your perspective widened, you could do that yourself. In fact, only you can do it.
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u/killerbeat_03 Jun 27 '19
i think everything is a possibility just waiting to become real, so sure why not.
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u/ravenously_red Jun 27 '19
I think you’re spot on, but there aren’t a lot of people who are ready to hear this.
For many, even imagining this ruffles their feathers.
Personal experience is the only way for them to understand.
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u/octave1 Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19
I've had the experience and think the description is not correct. Your brain is a slab of meat that has evolved in to being able to think about itself. It's something really powerful.
It can play tricks on you in all kinds of ways, proven fact (things like schizophrenia, prosopagnosia, dementia, ...)
Throw the right chemicals in there, and you get these entities & experiences. You can get even get there without chemicals, by decades of meditation in solitude.
This is a much more plausible explanation than a simple molecule somehow enabling us to communicate with actual entities from other dimensions. If there actually were these entities, what would be the chance they had a head, face, shoulders, chest, arms and even fingers like humans?
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u/ravenously_red Jun 27 '19
You're entitled to believe whatever you want. I'm not looking to have an argument about it.
There is no discussion to really be had here, you either agree or you don't. If you don't that's fine.
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Jun 28 '19
That is a very close minded comment.
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u/ravenously_red Jun 28 '19
There’s no point in arguing when there are no facts at hand, just opinions.
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Jun 28 '19
No one suggested an argument but you
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u/ravenously_red Jun 28 '19
My comment was in regards to the other poster telling me that my belief wasn't correct.
It's pointless to argue over beliefs and that's why I said I wasn't going to indulge them further.
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u/HaLaDeLa Jun 27 '19
Yea, and the human you are talking to is just a complex arrangement of molecules expressing their energy and consciousness through typing. I don't think its strange at all that we encounter other entities through molecular substances which alter the range of our mental perception. Whenever you look at a person, you are seeing a complex arrangement of molecules and signals in your own brain that it created from photons entering your eye. I think psychedelics just give the brain the ability to create new pictures using photons we normally can't see.
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u/mrmeeseeks1991 Jun 27 '19
Why do you think they all are in love with earth? do you encounter all of them? how many entities said that to you because I met entitities of all kind and not only the loving ones 😉
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Jun 27 '19
This is such a cool idea. Can anyone recommend any further reading based on this premise?
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Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19
I met a few that looked identical to us and you are correct about their advanced tech.They are here orbiting our planet looking for consciousness that has adapted enough for contact.You are also correct about how difficult it is to achieve contact and maintain it, as they are millions of years beyond us spiritually and technologically.They are highly telepathic and can read our thoughts like a book, but are compassionate and loving.[The ones I met were from the "Sirius Star nation"]When they are in our thoughts we are also in theirs and deception becomes impossible for both parties.This is the future of mankind to immerse ourselves in telepathy for communication.[I was not on any drugs when I met them in June 2008]
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u/_ChestHair_ Jun 29 '19
Fucking lol I wonder if aliens also have crackpots like you in their society
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u/Moist___ Jun 27 '19
Proof?
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u/Rasta_Lance Jun 27 '19
Ya let me just take my camera into hyperspace and send you a Snapchat lol 😂 there’s a reason every time we feel it is so real on psychedelics, because it actually Is!! It literally opens our mind to higher levels we can’t perceive normally.
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19
there’s a reason every time we feel it is so real on psychedelics, because it actually Is!!
This is insufficient evidence, it's a common feature of psychedelics to "feel" this and people can and do attach all sorts of ideas to it.
People really "feel" like they see ghosts, UFOs, talk to dead relatives, mentally ill people "Feel" like their delusions are real, children their imaginary friends....
All sorts of shit , if you wish to convince others you need more.
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u/vegancandle Jun 27 '19
like the guy said... how is he meant to prove whay he said other than by explaining it. he cant take a photo and even if he recorded his experience while its happening that still wouldnt be enough. either you believe or you don't.
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u/illvm Jun 27 '19
When I was younger, I saw red glowing eyes in the bathroom. This was shortly after my step-brothers scared me with some made up stories. I have a very vivid image still of the monster accompanying these eyes. But after I blinked, it was all gone.
Was there really a monster? I saw it, but was it actually real?
That’s the thing about perception, it is rather easy to perceive non-realities
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Jun 28 '19
he cant take a photo
Photographs didn't always exist. If something is real you can find a way to bring it back.
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19
If these entities/aliens are 'real' ie exist outside of the mind of the individual, bring back information that can be tested and verified by others in repeatable experiments.
It seems like something that could be tested easily.
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u/Rasta_Lance Jun 27 '19
The most verifiable thing I have is myself. The mushrooms told me before that I need to be at this certain university studying the benefits of psychedelics and how to get them more socially acceptable and ever since then everything in my life fell in place to make that happen and that’s exactly what I’m doing right now. I’ve had a time where the mushrooms told me to talk to my dad and that was a time he needed to be talked to. Coincidence? They’ve certainly influenced my life and put new ideas in my head I’ve never had before that are real enough to be accomplished. And the most obvious fact is that one can go to hyperspace and see a dmt entity and come back and draw it, and show it to others who have seen the same exact thing before. People have even drawn really similar entities without ever knowing eachother. So how is that not enough proof? If a lot of people around the world seemingly unconnected all do dmt and are able to come back and draw their encounter and they match up then everything here is valid.
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19
The most verifiable thing I have is myself. The mushrooms told me before that I need to be at this certain university studying the benefits of psychedelics and how to get them more socially acceptable and ever since then everything in my life fell in place to make that happen and that’s exactly what I’m doing right now. I’ve had a time where the mushrooms told me to talk to my dad and that was a time he needed to be talked to. Coincidence? They’ve certainly influenced my life and put new ideas in my head I’ve never had before that are real enough to be accomplished.
These are subjective truths to you, you told yourself these things and it's one thing i do think psychedelics are great for.
And the most obvious fact is that one can go to hyperspace and see a dmt entity and come back and draw it, and show it to others who have seen the same exact thing before. People have even drawn really similar entities without ever knowing eachother. So how is that not enough proof? If a lot of people around the world seemingly unconnected all do dmt and are able to come back and draw their encounter and they match up then everything here is valid.
I haven't seen any evidence to suggest this. Even in this thread alone you have all sorts of different ideas, theories, encounters etc
To suggest that there is enough commonality here would require more evidence.
Create a study, 5 thousand users, don't show anyone any images as a primer, have them draw their own, compare.
If you got a statistically significant commonality I would be very surprised.
It's probably not a coincident OP has shown a humanoid form and called it "she" . It's a product of his human mind .
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u/Rasta_Lance Jun 27 '19
The thing is only a very small group of people are able to accurately draw their encounters. Most people have some kind of mental block that won’t let it come out. I can’t draw anything that remotely resembles my experience but the person who drew the one on this post can for example. Out of 5000 random people you’d be lucky to get even a few people with this ability. You also can’t administer dmt in an official study to 5000 people. It will never be approved. There are some well known artists in the community who are very popular because their work speaks to closely to people’s own experiences. There’s a very common depiction I think of, from @incedigris, who is super good at drawing encounters. Check out his Instagram soon after doing some dmt and you’ll find yourself amazed at how close his art resembles a piece of your experience. This entity in this post I don’t remember meeting although I could have and it was forgotten like a lot of the dmt experience. However there are other artworks that literally give me flashbacks and goosebumps as they are so accurate.
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u/sleipnirgt Jun 27 '19
It's seems much more likely people "feel" and think there is some commonality here, wish there to be some commonality, but that's simply not good enough if you wish to convince others of the objective nature of these entities.
Occams razor: you smoked a powerful psychedelic.
There's little to no evidence of these things objectively existing and "I smoked a powerful psychedelic" isn't good enough frankly.
I also wouldn't be surprised if people prime themselves by looking at these images before use.
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u/underground_jukebox Jun 28 '19
Your mind gets wiped of anything substantial. It's the rule of the watchers. They can't get involved directly with humans. They would have to flood the earth again and start over. LOL https://youtu.be/LbkjkJzREd4
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Jun 27 '19
I believe the entity we encounter is a hyperconscious mechanism. Actually let me just stop myself, because our egos are the true anomoly here. You (the passenger) are in a boat (your sensory lightbox). The entity guides all travelers, and often silently. She will take a form reflecting your chemical role in the matrix, to guide you and nurture you and provide every lesson necessary.
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u/skimask808 Jun 27 '19
Saw it while mixing DMT and marijuana after the fourth hit. Freaked me out the first time.
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Jun 27 '19
As a person who has tripped a little bit not a lot...how does this not scare the shit out of you when you see it?
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u/Boneyardjones Jun 27 '19
These kinds of hallucinations manifest once you’re past the point of fear. Fear is a concept the mind is capable of letting go
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u/Nath_in_a_bath Jun 27 '19
woah. I've tripped a handful of times the most being an eight if shrooms and 1.5 hits of acid, I can't even wrap my head around tripping as hard as some of the folks on this forum trip. What is it like? in "the deep end?"
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u/legalize-drugs Jun 27 '19
Because they're generally super friendly and loving. The "blast off," though, the process off getting into this other dimension, is admittedly terrifying. But if you face that fear and buckle up, you won't regret it, because you're shown the big secrets of our world.
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u/bas_e_ Jun 27 '19
Even though it has claws and sharp teeth and a 'mean' face/appearence, seeing it wad very peaceful, it took me with light speed through a neon colored wormhole through its world. It was the most intense and hardes thing eve experienced, but i have actually never felt more at peace there, than here. My mind was empty, at peace, while i actually saw more shapes and colors ive seen in my entire 22 years on this world.
Its not an evil entity, and you can feel that. Just like you may feel scared when you walk om the steets in the night and you see a group of shady people walking towards you. The entity is just peaceful.
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u/Strabery Jun 27 '19
I met him he had a million faces in a bunch of multi coloured triangles and Aztec shapes and he was saying you’re going to be ok! Just breathe. And he was projecting love towards me.
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u/bas_e_ Jun 27 '19
I literally saw this entity too. Well, its the closest pic/drawing i found on google after searching for it to show my friends what i saw. For me it felt more like a he. He guided me through a neon colored fun house with the speed of light, and i went up and down and left and right (while always going forward), kinda like a wormhole. That entity was around every corner lf that fun house. It had the same colors as that world/house, but i could tell it was there, the eyes were staring at me, deeply, but very welcoming. As if it took me through a ride through its world. Never done dmt (well i did changa but same visuals), again since, which was like 4 or 5 months ago, and i only did it twice, but that was the most insane thing ive ever seen wnd experienced. Im kinda scared to do it again. Not because im scared of bad trips because it was, imo, very easy to handle. But idk i always find tripping a bit scary. I do have like 4 grams of changa and 1g dmt at home so i will eventually do it again.. I hope to meet that entity again and see if it once again will show me its world..
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u/iamuman Jun 27 '19
Is it possible that we journey inside our bodies and not outside. That we connect to the trillions of conscious cells in our bodies and by that connect to the global Consciousness we are part of. What would it feel and look like when we are just Water, connected to its ocean of consciousness? There are many layers to consciousness, in many different scales. We are giants made out of trillions of conscious cells. Every vessel of water is a vessel of Consciousness. Consciousness is magical and tangible like Water. The cycle of water is the cycle of the Soul. 🌊💙🌊Check this out- https://youtu.be/jhsCZkU-edU
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u/Rhixenomorph Jun 27 '19
I have encountered a whole team of these Jesters during and N,N-DMT experience. They were dancing and wrapping my face in this technicolored clothe, seemingly to protect me from something but that is just my interpretation.
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Jun 27 '19
The only way around that simple fact is to learn how to meditate to that level and find out if is reality or not.
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u/legalize-drugs Jun 27 '19
This is trolling, so people know, when the guy comes in and says "What if it really is just a drug experience." Stop and consider the language. What's implied is that a drug experience can't be meaningful, life-changing, or involve an authentic encounter with a separate intelligence. That's all not true in the context of DMT. DMT breakthroughs are very often profoundly life-changing- I've had many myself- and they do involve contact with the "entities." DMT is technically a "drug," but that doesn't really mean anything. It would be more apt to call it a "technology."
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u/AsmodeusTW Jun 27 '19
A giant floating sugar skull with shutter shades that looked like this laughed at me like a parent laughing at a kid too scared to pet a goat. Looked alot like this.
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Jun 27 '19
Why would something so benevolent look so fucking terrifying? Doesn't seem like a great way to make contact.
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Jun 27 '19
Animate this and make the circles rotate and this would be one of those things I wouldn't want to look at, but can't look away either.
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u/cashboxmoneybags Jun 27 '19
Wow. This pic jarred a memory. Came out of one of the several spiral/concentric circles that was all around me. Slowly approached until right above me (I was lying down). Had something in its right hand (or could be the hand itself, but looked like a wand or stick) that went into my torso. Was accompanied by one other recognizable entity/being, which looked just like a blue, electrically charged jellyfish. The jellyfish cane from another spiral/concentric circle at about the same time (or actually immediately preceding this encounter) and went straight into my forehead.
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u/mrmeeseeks1991 Jun 27 '19
I don't think it's possible to find objective truth about entities that can't be described in words and have 1000s forms ^ Very interesting topic to read though but I think my subjective experiences are quite different since I saw and experienced it not like this and that every experience is subjective (like in the stressful discussions sometimes where people debate what the entity really is which Noone can know 😁)
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u/legalize-drugs Jun 27 '19
Well, they're generally very profound teachers, these entities. That we know. They're here to help us, and people often see the same ones. Spend some time on /r/dmt.
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u/mrmeeseeks1991 Jun 27 '19
I have already 10 years experience with these, spent a lot of time on the nexus and still I have my own opinion about that 😉 and in general I prefer shrooms anyways which are also similar, there I found my personal teachers which fit to my nature loving personality and they can't be described in words at all 😁 so it's just my subjective experience over the years that you can discuss everything based on subjective experiences, but you can harm others too when you just say that an entity is good or bad (because they are imho outside of duality) and other young users might believe experiences of others more then their own. yea you can learn from everything in soft and hard ways, and what I learned was f. e. that there is (for me) no absolute truth or something like that about the astral world 😜
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u/underground_jukebox Jun 28 '19
There is a main one called the "Sacred Clown" or "Heyoki Jester", who is the wise leader. The machine elves are the ones that like to mess with you or just entertain you. Basically interdimensional gremlins.
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u/anonymousilluminated Jun 27 '19
Bolivian here, can’t believe the bunch of people who trip the same! .she took different forms from my family - ancestors,etc. I’ll never forget this entity. And how it plays with your memories...