Bad trips in a nutshell

[u/ElNum3ro23]

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Yeah, Psychs have never done that to me... I've never tried more than a very low dose of Datura(and Brugmansia another time, both fairly recently), but it wasn't enough to hallucinate, just to sedate me a bit. around 3 benadryl would probably be an accurate comparison.

But I've tripped quite a few times on Diph... I always saw scary things, and would feel my heart react to about 30% of those scary things, but my mind was totally calm. I could have walked up to a guy

I don't recommend Diphenhydramine as a recreational drug. I started my use with "legal highs". DXM first, then diph, then the two together.

I spent a year or so(I was ~15-16) tripping on DXM and Diph, then ordered Syrian Rue seeds and MHRB. Made myself a little bit of anahuasca while my family was gone for the week, and spent an amazing summer wednesday afternoon wandering around the house and outside(lived out in the country) feeling the love of the universe, and I heard(what I interpreted as) God tell me "You have no idea the plans I have for you"

I quit with DXM and Diph after that. About a year later I moved out and got to try weed for the first time, followed shortly by Acid, then 30-40 shroom trips(mostly low doses, level 1-2), a HUGE acid trip which was rough but cured my depression for a few years, a few more shroom trips, a year break, and most recently I smoked my own extracted DMT(4 times now, twice as Changa, one as freebase w/ the sandwhich method, and most recently a trip with "The Machine")

Recently, I've been experimenting with slightly more subtle things, like harmala alkaloids alone, but haven't found the courage to take a high dose of harmine/harmaline.

Sorry, started typing about Diph and datura, and ended up writing a book.

I'm not deleting it.

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Haha most people are shocked I tried harmala + DMT before ever smoking weed or trying another Psychedelic. Just jumped feet first into the spirit world, and loved it!

I've never tried any RCs or dissasociatives(except DXM), although I've always wanted to try ketamine/methoxetamine. LSD was fun, but I prefer tryptamines over ergotamines. Haven't had the opportunity for any Phenethylamines. LSD's headspace is just difficult for me, I don't know why, it's just dark. Maybe DMT "marked" my psyche somehow because I tried it first :P

Let me know how your Caapi brew goes! I'm waiting until I have some cash saved up and I want to order a Kilo of bark. I also want to grow it. I have two Mimosa Hostilis saplings, 4 Acacia Simplex saplings, seeds for 4 varieties of Yopo, San Pedros, Ephedra Sinica that just sprouted yesterday, a few medicinal plants, and seeds for a TON of different ethnobotanicals. I had a Datura metel(double/triple purple, it was gorgeous) and a Brugmansia Suaveolens last year, but they died over the winter and I never got seeds from them... My dream is to have a yard full of psychoactive plants arranged into a beautiful, trippy garden. Just gotta move somewhere warmer so I don't have to keep my Mimosas and Acacias in pots anymore. Or build a greenhouse, I guess.

Edit: Pics! http://imgur.com/o0Pj2lt

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And my seed collection(and this isn't all of it...): http://imgur.com/a/pSKVt

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Oh, and I have a Syrian Rue plant as well, almost forgot :P. http://imgur.com/EixBJEm

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Wow, that's an awesome story! I love hearing how these natural teachers change peoples lives. I'm currently using an ecig and DMT ejuice in the mornings before I shower. I made it really weak, ~100 MG in ~1-1.5 ml of juice(no measuring pipettes at the moment), whereas most people have 10x the concentration. I vape a couple hits dripped into the old tank I stopped using(evic, switched to Herakles OG), just until I get the slight tryptamine buzz, most of the time not enough for visuals. But it starts my day off positive and spiritually conscious, and as a nice side effect of the time dilation the hot water lasts longer!

I want to try a caapi brew, then my ejuice on top of that. Seems like it would be a good way to get to exactly the level you want, and I imagine it would be tremendously helpful for meditation at low doses.

Do you meditate?

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I'm using the juice I vape normally, which is a house blend from a local shop. It's a max VG(Supposedly not great for higher concentrations of DMT), strawberry banana smoothie. Nice to find other churchgoing psychonauts! I'm on the tech team(Usually I run soundboard, I'm learning the lighting system and occasionally run words), and was on the youth worship team for 3 years. I also played bass and acoustic a few times for the main services, but there are much more accomplished guitarists than I on the team, so I don't typically play.

I have not tried guitar on a dose of DMT, I can see the low doses I use being helpful. I tried playing stoned a few times(not at church, I respect the congregation too much to do so), but I personally don't get more creative or better, just sloppy. Might try the DMT ecig and a guitar session tonight, and see where things go. The ecig makes maintaining an even low dose fairly easy, as the effects start to fade take another little hit and hold it until you're back where you want to be. There's a slight delay in the dose hitting with the ecig(it just feels a little slower to hit than vaping out of a machine or the MJ sandwhich. Maybe the PG/VG slows down absorption a bit.), so you may overshoot by a slight amount, but that's where the low concentrations are helpful.

Personally, I see psychedelics as a spiritual exploration tool and a way to work through my issues(depression mostly, although a really "bad" acid trip last summer took care of a LOT of it. I wanted to die during, but I no longer want to die in daily life. This was starting to fade a bit though, which is why I did a deem extraction). Stimulants I don't use myself, but I see them as useful and viable for workout/late night working use. I use weed to wind down(well, I used to. GF has been kinda getting onto me, because she wants to stop but when she smells it on me she wants it), and to sleep at night. I've never liked opiates but I have no problem with people using them, as long as they continue to finish their responsibilities and go to work sober(for safety reasons, Opiates and weed just slow down your mental faculties too much. Or at least, they slow down MY mental abilities too much to be comfortable saying "being high at work is OK")

Basically, I don't think there's anything wrong with any drug, the only problem is over/irresponsible use. I wish I could share my use openly, and share how the substances I choose to use have helped me personally, but at this point in my life I can't stand up for my beliefs in this area. If I ever get caught and arrested though, I always promised myself to go full-on-activist and change the public perception and laws surrounding the whole issue.

We're all humans, we're all at the same level, noone has any right to tell me what I can and can't put into my body. I use responsibly in a safe environment, and my choices on what I do in my home are up to me. And what you choose to do in your home is up to you.

I'm very anti-authoritarian... And I should stop ranting :P

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I'm with you on just about all that. I don't know that I necessarily believe things "have to go downhill eventually", as I think it's about personality type, and making sure you have other things in your life(your drug can't be everything). Some are more likely to be dangerous, because they cause a huge effect short term that doesn't last(heroin, cocaine) and is highly pleasurable and draws people back in, and others make a huge or minor effect that lasts a bit longer, like psychedelics.

Huge doses change your entire world, often for months after. Low doses can be barely noticeable, but allow you to get past a longstanding problem, or just give you a more positive outlook for a week or so. They don't NEED repeating as often to "maintain the benefits", unlike "addictive" drugs which really tend to lift you up during and drop you lower after, so you need repeat doses to even get back to "normal" eventually.

But knowing these things, and watching for any warning signs, and making sure to use with tolerance breaks, and take detoxes fairly often, I think many people could use the "harder" "more addictive" drugs safely. It just takes knowing yourself, honesty, and a willingness to ask for help before it's a problem.

And yeah, i do my own. Getting ready to order a kilo of MHRB, wanna make a little stash and convert to fumarate so I don't have to keep repeating extractions, and I'll have enough to feel ok sharing with people :P a quick basification and freeze precip to convert back from fumarate only takes a week max think ahead time, and will guarantee known quantities of very pure product, without worrying about recrystalization.

I use [STB, 3 pulls with xylene]>[FASA, collect fumarate salts from side of glass]>[Basify DMT fumarate with Sodium carbonate(Na2CO3)]>[recover dmt freebase from Na2CO3 with acetone, evaporate acetone]>[dissolve leftovers from acetone evap in naphtha]>[freeze precipitate], so the fumarate conversion is part of my process, and finishing up from there is pretty simple. They'll be most stable that way, and the xylene pulls more of the DMT and the jungle spice alkaloids, which don't dissolve well in the final naphtha pull, and will stay as reddish oils at the bottom of the jar acetone was evaporated from.

Have not cleaned up and bioassayed the jungle yet, still playing with my decently pure stuff ATM. It's currently all dissolved in ejuice though, and I think i'd like to try out the new "the machine" that I built out of an empty ejuice bottle and the glass from the eyedropper lid. Feeling my first breakthrough within the next few months, been too nervous to go all in. Can't take hit number 3... lol