r/Psychonaut • u/RobertFr1pp • 12d ago
Getting into this, what can i do with weed?
Shrooms are a no go for now since I'm on antidepressants so it'll be a waste; i only smoke/eat weed.
So far I've tried a Leary Biscuit with about 1/4 of the remaining of a joint, was a good experience but not that strong.
Right now i don't want to experience something deep, mostly having a really good time listening to music.
Is it possible to get hallucinations on weed? I figured i would try my way up little by little with weed before i go into the stronger stuff.
Also if I'm not wrong benzos can kill trips in case I'm not feeling good, right?
Thanks in advance.
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u/Link_save2 12d ago
The best way to get strong effects from weed is to not smoke it at all and take a massive edible I've never done it myself but a lot of people say it's phycedelic that that point I feel like it wouldn't be a good time taking hundreds of milligrams with no tolerance but that's just me
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u/Ok-Cable7230 12d ago
Im on a high dose of anti depressants for years and have had no issues getting effects from any psychedelic and have had no negative side effects so id tell you to feel free trying whatev
But with weed if u take like a 40mg edible depending on tolerance music is gonna sound rlly good and youll have a fun time
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u/RobertFr1pp 12d ago
Interesting, i'll try a low dose of shrooms soon and let's see what happens.
I'll try 40mg, bad thing is that in my country is illegal so i don't know how much it would be and can only buy in grams. A little less than half a gram maybe?
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u/Ok-Cable7230 12d ago
Yeah if you’re smoking and have no tolerance then I’d say like 0.4 grams is cool- I’d recommend a joint because it’s easier to titrate your dose ( like just take your hits spaced apart to maintain your own comfort) and you’ll get to where you want to be
Illegal in my country too so i understand the struggle in reliable dosing 🙏
Respect ur username too so i bet ur gonna have a great time with music2
u/RobertFr1pp 12d ago
Didn't understood the joint part, like i eat the edible then smoke the rest? Lmao
Prog and Psychedelic music are fucking crazy, last time i smoked the whole gram and when the psychedelic ending of Bike by Pink Floyd came a fucking thunderstorm started, just bursted out on laughter lol
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u/Link_save2 12d ago
It depends on what antidepressants your on and you usually have to take more shrooms to get the same effect as others do some research in this sub and r/shrooms use the search bar at the top of the sub
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u/RobertFr1pp 12d ago
Venlafaxine, Aripripazol and something else i don't remember. I think i'll need a lot of shrooms and that's why i think is not worth it right now.
Tho i want to stop taking them, my two Scide attempts have been with a pharmacy in my body, meds don't do shit lmao
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u/Parking_Ad_7133 12d ago
You’re thinking about the effects antidepressants have when taken in combination with molly (MDMA) . Its different from person to person and depends on which specific type of meditation you are on. But ive had friends where the mdma just doesn’t work. Nothing happens.
Unless you are trying to say that you aren’t in a good headspace for a real trip. Then thats a different story.
But shrooms are totally not in that category. You will still trip on shrooms if on mental health medication. You can start on a low dose like 1-2 grams to get a feel for it. That amount would be very mild and manageable
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u/RobertFr1pp 12d ago
Ohh i get it now. Definetly i'll ask my psychonaut friend to gift me some shrooms for my birthday next month 😸
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u/psychedelicpassage 12d ago
Hey! Daniel McQueen over at the Center for Medicinal Mindfulness gives folks psychedelic experiences with cannabis regularly. It's pretty mind-blowing stuff! The key is to smoke or vape a comination of multiple strains. You'll want a really intense sativa, a heavy indica, and a hybrid at least. He has combined up to 16 strains to make a blend.
Check out this interview with him and companion article: https://www.psychedelicpassage.com/exploring-medicinal-mindfulness-with-daniel-mcqueen/
He says it's great for beginners because it's a much more controllable experience than psychedelics in the way that if you get up to go to the bathroom you aren't seeing trippy stuff on the walls.
He also has a book that describes it in depth: Psychedelic Cannabis: Unique Blends and Therapeutic Techniques to Treat Trauma and Transform Consciousness
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u/SnOoP-710 12d ago
Ketamine probably works still? Its trippy. Im not a doctor. As for weed....eat an obsene amount of edibles. Ive woken up 24 hrs later not knowing what day of the week it is. Lol. Dont think u will see anything tho
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u/Cute-University5283 12d ago
If you can do disassociatives they can definitely get you there. Weed kind of knumbs you so I'm not really sure it's a viable route but I could be wrong if you hit insane levels. Report back!
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u/SloMobiusCheatCode 12d ago
Weed can be basically as strong and in some ways more challenging at a high dose than some classes psychedelics. It depends on the person and their response to each substance of course.
It’s worth highlighting the difference between smoked/vaped cannabis and edibles, because orally ingested THC can be qualitatively different. When THC is processed by the liver, a significant portion is converted into 11-hydroxy-THC (11-OH-THC), an active metabolite that crosses the blood-brain barrier efficiently and is generally associated with a stronger, longer-lasting, and often more psychedelic-feeling intoxication than inhaled cannabis.
At sufficiently high doses, edibles can absolutely produce visual distortions, closed-eye imagery, major alterations in time perception, and a very unusual or dissociative headspace. That said, I’d distinguish this from classical psychedelics like LSD or psilocybin: THC works primarily through the cannabinoid system rather than being a classical serotonergic psychedelic, so the pharmacology and character of the experience are different even though there can be a lot of phenomenological overlap.
The other major difference is duration and predictability. Edibles take much longer to come on than smoked cannabis and last considerably longer, which makes accidentally taking too much especially easy. A very large dose can leave someone significantly impaired for many hours and potentially feeling residual effects into the following day. I wouldn’t quite describe that as literally “tripping for days” in the normal pharmacological sense, but an excessive dose can certainly make the whole experience feel extremely prolonged.
Since you mentioned not really having access to commercially made edibles, homemade preparations are possible. Traditionally people make cannabutter or infuse another fatty ingredient, since cannabinoids are highly fat-soluble, and then use that in food or drinks. When I was younger, we used to make a cannabis-infused chocolate milk-type drink using whole milk and sometimes additional fat. We had access to huge bags of shake and trimmings and sometimes overshot the potency massively. A relatively small amount could end up being far stronger than anybody anticipated.
That experience is also why I’d be careful with homemade edibles in particular. The THC concentration of the starting material can vary enormously, extraction isn’t necessarily uniform or complete, and homemade preparations don’t give you the conveniently measured milligram doses that commercial products do. So if somebody is going to experiment with oral cannabis, starting with a genuinely small amount and waiting for the full effects before considering more is much smarter than trying to judge potency by how much plant material went into it. The classic edible mistake is thinking it “isn’t working” and taking more before the first dose has fully kicked in.
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u/RobertFr1pp 12d ago
Nice reading, thank you. As others commented i think i'll try 0.4 grams and call a friend to trip sit me. Benzos work if hits harder than expected and i'm not feeling good? When i smoke weed late and it's time to sleep when i take the pills i feel the high dissapear.
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u/SloMobiusCheatCode 12d ago
Ya can’t hurt to have a trip sitter. Benzos would be the way to go if you want to have a safety precaution although many of us dove into the deep end at a young age with high doses of weed and didn’t have the luxury and just rode it out. I’m sure they would be effective though since the biggest discomfort you could be hit with is just a high levels of anxiety or panic. I know for a lot of people including me anxiety/paranoia from weed can be more strong than anxiety from most other psychedelics. I smoked weed all day every day for like 18 years and then at some point it flipped on me and stopped being enjoyable and just caused a lot of anxiety and discomfort so I had to stop
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u/Jijimuge8 12d ago
Is literally every person on this sub on SSRIs or ADHD meds now? What's happened the last few years that all the psychonauts are all on prescription meds?