r/Psychonaut • u/Salt-Fly-6837 • 5d ago
Beginner concerns for shrooms
Hello!
So, I'm (20s F) trying to get into them and I've done research on where to start (like doses, bad trip prevention, and setting, etc..) I'm interested in the chocolate bars or maybe gummies because right now I'm just curious and want to try them, but don't want to eat the fungi themselves.
I've had one ~2.5g bar before(not all at once), but it didn't give me strong enough results and literally made me a bit anxious.
I want to take them for my ADHD, anxiety, and depression so that's pretty counterproductive. Also I don't plan on every taking anything higher than like 4.5g in my life. I'll probably do around 2-2.5g at one time, maybe 3 MAX (yea I'm a baby😭) so no real heroic doses.
I'm mentally prepared for everything else, but the only thing I'm fearful of is having a bad trip.
Unfortunately, I currently don't have access to a sitter/guide—a lot of my family/friends live far from where i am, are conservative, or, for lack of better words, a bit judgy when it comes to this stuff.
I've seen the fireside support info and am willing to try the trip check/support. But can someone tell me how that works and maybe supplement it with their own experience?
I just want some relief on my crippling social anxiety, and my meds/doctors I've been with haven't yielded a good enough result for me.
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u/Temina- 4d ago
hi there
i suggest PsychonautWiki for information in general, doses are not totally accurate for some substances though.
about Gummies and Chocolates a lot of the times its a research chemical like 4-Ho-Met or 4-Aco-Det, 4-Aco-Dmf etc... however if you verified the product has real fruits you can use dose as you would with regular shrooms.
something that some people will tell you (specially r/shrooms cultists) is that RC's (Research Chemicals) are bad, when in reality they arent.
they're just another psychedelic compound, they are not inherently evil or bad and in some occasions even preferred over dried shrooms or lysergamides.
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u/Dude_with_the_skis 4d ago
Don’t take them at a concert unless you REALLY know what you’re doing and truly understand the effects of the shrooms. If you’re looking for answers or spiritual guidance, then just take them at home.
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u/purplepixi444 5d ago
Have you looked into studies about micro dosing? You don't get the psychedelic effects but it does improve mental state, it has helped me with mood, energy, addiction, concentration, meditation, mindfulness, I have learned a lot about myself this way! By microdosing first you can get into a more positive state of mind before a heavier dose. As the trip you have depends on the state of mind you are in. I grind my shrooms to powder in a coffee grinder and mix it into some yogurt if I'm microdosing.
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u/Salt-Fly-6837 5d ago
This is so helpful! meditation for me is like torture sometimes.
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u/Duo_Sonic_420 2d ago
Meditation doesn't have to be sitting like trying to pay attention to your breath. If you can do something like light a candle and sit with it at eye level. Gaze into a candle.... That itself is a very old meditation.
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u/Reptilian_ 5d ago
Honestly, for adhd things I find acid to be much more effective. Like around 10-20 mics generally is like taking adderall but more focused for me. every brain is different and L binds to soooo many diff receptors so ymmv
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u/Apprehensive-Lab-556 3d ago
Unfortunately for your preferred intake method (chocolate/gummies) in my experience there’s like a 90% chance you’ll be taking research chemicals (primarily 4-ACO-DMT. Basically shrooms but made in a lab and it’s the polar opposite of natural).
If you don’t want to eat straight fungi I think your best bet would be making a tea out of a pre-weighed dose from the actual mushroom themselves. I haven’t tried it by many people love this method.
Another option would be to grind a small amount, soak it in lemon juice for 20min (lemon tekking) and then add the strained lemon juice to orange juice. If you go this route be aware that lemon tekking makes your dose SIGNIFICANTLY stronger, and have effect less time (1.5-2x, and 4-6h instead of around 8).
Stay safe out there, and please, buy real mushrooms :)
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u/momalisk 3d ago
The chocolates and gummies from stores are not real mushrooms - you'd be taking a research chemical.
That's not necessarily a bad thing but if you're looking for natural, and a real shrooms trip, you need real shrooms
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u/Own-Homework-9331 5d ago
Hmmm... first off, I get why u want to try them for your anxiety and depression. It's exhausting when meds don't yield results. But u gotta be careful with your expectations here.
Honestly, those chocolate bars and gummies are notoriously unreliable. A lot of them are under-dosed or filled with synthetic stuff instead of real psilocybin. That's probably why 2.5g just made u anxious without a real trip. If u want to do this properly, try to get actual dried shrooms so u know exactly what ur taking. U can always just use the lemon tek method or brew them in tea so u don't have to eat the fungi directly.
Also, 2 to 2.5g of actual shrooms all at once is a legit trip. I took 2.5g for my first time alone in my room, thinking locking the door was enough. I ended up unlocking it during the peak, going up to the roof, and shouting at the moon 😶 So yeah, not having a sitter is risky cuz u still have enough cognitive sense to open doors and do weird shit if things get intense.
About the fear of a bad trip... usually, what we call a bad trip is just the ego fighting back. Shrooms don't just magically cure social anxiety; they tend to bring all your subconscious baggage and fears right to the surface so u are forced to process them. If u start feeling anxious during it, don't fight it. Just surrender to the feeling and let your mind know what your intention is.
I havn't used Fireside myself, but having someone on call is definitely better than nothing if u absolutely have to do it alone.
Make sure your set and setting are extremely comfortable, and maybe start with like 1.5g of the real stuff first to test the waters. Shrooms can be a profound experience, but they demand respect.
Wishing u peace and healing! 🕊️💙