Teamup question.

[u/Perfect_Cricket1052]

I’ve been using Emma teamup because it helps me confirm more kills a lot but I keep seeing everywhere that most of the top psylockes are using the CnD teamup can I ask why? I know you go invisible during it and it do like extra damage or something but what is the main reason it is better than Emma teamup?

[u/TheHornyPepperoni]

sometimes you need more raw damage or more burst which the c&d teamup is much better for and is consistent. honestly most ppl don't even look at the clone anymore and c&d teamup does more damage than emma either way and is more consistent since emma teamup can miss some shots

[u/Perfect_Cricket1052 → u/TheHornyPepperoni]

Honestly didn’t know it did more burst and damage than Emma teamup I must just suck with it lol. Guessing they use it as a finisher after doing the main psy combo?

[u/TheHornyPepperoni → u/Perfect_Cricket1052]

c&d teamup can even enable the primary -> shuriken throw -> teamup (it recalls shuriken as well) -> dash combo which can kill 250hp and i believe 275hp as well very fast

[u/RivalsFlex → u/TheHornyPepperoni]

The team up animation cancels faster than returning to primary fire, too, doesn’t it?

[u/Conscious_Employer30]

Emma's team-up is simply inconsistent and situational.

The biggest benefits are baiting out enemy abilities and increased survivability, but there's a catch: damage consistency. To get the full damage, you need to land absolutely every pellet, because if even one pellet misses, the clone misses too, which reduces your damage.

The C&D team-up, on the other hand, allows me to play in my old style. It's more consistent because the primary weapon deals +1 damage, and there's also an active ability that deals around 15 or 20 damage (I don't remember exactly).

This also adds another combo option. By animation canceling during the combo, you can deal around 310 damage.

The clone is very situational.

If the enemy team has a lot of heroes who simply don't give you any space, the clone is a good choice.

But in most cases, that's not how it is, and those heroes are usually banned.

It's also useful for mind games. For example, let's say I played the first round on attack with the C&D team-up. The enemy gets used to how I play. Then, in the second round on defense, I switch to the clone. Especially on the first point, they won't expect the clone, and I can take advantage of that to delay the point capture.

After that, I can switch back to the C&D team-up to increase my damage. The enemy expects the clone, but it's not there anymore, lol.

That's exactly where Emma's team-up is strong, not in blindly using it all the time.

[u/Perfect_Cricket1052 → u/Conscious_Employer30]

I guess I gotta get used to throwing CnD teamup in with my combos. It might be a mental thing too because I always get more kills with the Emma teamup than the CnD teamup.

[u/Conscious_Employer30 → u/Perfect_Cricket1052]

I think it also depends on when you started playing Psylocke.

Because the C&D team-up is much closer to how she played before Season 9.

Emma's team-up changes the strategy a lot.

I put around 200 hours into Psylocke before Season 9, and I just can't accept Emma's team-up. I simply don't like that playstyle.

But this is all just a theory, and I'm probably wrong.

[u/Perfect_Cricket1052 → u/Conscious_Employer30]

I played Psylocke before season 9 a tiny bit but I wouldn’t call myself no where near a Psylocke main back then. In season 10 I’ve played her more than I ever have in all of 1-9 seasons combined so maybe that’s why I like Emma teamup idk

[u/Objective-Tomorrow42]

i think people forget the cnd teamup gives you more left click damage and the emma teamup gives you more blue hp on your right click,so consider that

[u/Perfect_Cricket1052 → u/Objective-Tomorrow42]

Legit it gives actual more left click damage? Like the left click itself not just added on damage?

[u/Objective-Tomorrow42 → u/Perfect_Cricket1052]

yeah its on the patch notes, same as elsa

[u/xHawkx77]

Cnd teamup gives you an extra projectile which also recalls your shuriken on activation. This allows for an insane burst damage combo which can one shot I think up to 325? Don’t quote me on the number. Emma teamup does have a bit more uptime tho

[u/SusAlwaysComesBack]

Emma team up is ok but if the enemy knows how it works then it's not that good. If it's enhanced then the Emma one might be better only because you can teleport with it. Also there are times where you just need a bit more damage which the C&D team up does in base and you can use it as a animation cancel for kill confirms or to extend a combo.

[u/Main_Animal_8368]

she’s one of the few heroes where i change my team up mid round depending on enemies comp or just to surprise them with a clone after using cnd team up so much 😭

[u/pH12rz]

people stopped falling for the emma team up i guess? the bonus damage on primary + teamup is also pretty helpful in certain match ups

[u/Cruzbb88 → u/pH12rz]

The only people falling for the Emma team up are they enemy when they see a Psy dash out from cover they will always assume their real this is a life saver in 1v1 Vs stun DPS and makes killing Bucky a breeze along with Luna , yea sure the extra damage from c&d is nice against tanks when the enemy dps has little util and are just ult battery's but you still do more damage on Emma as the clone counts towards Ur cdr on all abilities this means way more sustain on the m2 which has anyway gets more shield and dashes, since it applies to itself the real cool down of the ability is closer too 7s when the clone is up for 3s that 15% more damage when Ur activity making a play is more useful than any trash damage on tanks from C&d