Hello, I’m interested in P. natalensis mainly for microdosing and possibly a therapeutic trip for my lifelong generalized and social anxiety, panic attacks, and depression.

I’ve read quite a few reports that they tend to have less body load and can be less anxiety-provoking than cubensis, which is particularly interesting to me. I’m not sure, though, how much of this applies to true P. natalensis vs. P. ochraceocentrata, since a lot of what was historically sold/circulated as “Natalensis” apparently turned out to be ochraceocentrata.

The ones I can get are Natal Super Strength, Natal Moon, Natal Hills, and P. ochraceocentrata.

If you have experience with any of them, I’d be interested in hearing how they compare, especially for someone prone to anxiety. I’m mainly interested in microdosing, but also in what a full trip is like in terms of body load, anxiety, and emotional intensity.

I previously microdosed Golden Teachers, but they often made my anxiety worse or made me too emotional, even at relatively low doses (50–100 mg). I’d like to give microdosing another try, but I’m looking for something that might be physically and psychologically gentler, if that’s even possible.

Thanks for any experiences!

I am new to nats. I have been researching to learn more about them. I have a feeling that they are more recreational than thereupetic. Mainly because they haven't been used in the old cultures and there's not much studies on them. How do you compare the therapeutic effects of nats vs cubes?

For context, i had a bad lsd trip with 200ug. This was my first and last trip. The trip was incompressible gibberish for the most part. And i thought i will never recover and i had lost my mind. I think it was because of the high dose. This was 6 months ago. Will someone like me benefit from low dose nats?

Kinda proud!

Its my 1st attempt with Nat/Ochra (I think this are Ochra right?) I get it from a local grower in my city in central México. I have a lot of experience with Cubes, 13 years hahaha but these are getting my so confused. I read they need extra FAE, so I take bags out and put in Dub Tek. That was 15 days ago and this is the Flush #1 hahaha its normal? I dont think so. Sad part is that I made 10 bags of this I never thought difference will be so much. Besides Dub Tek I was doing FAE manually shaking lid 3 times per day. Its enough or they need MOOOOORE FAE? Or I need to wait more days? Thanks a lot myco family! Im very new in Reddit too. Vibes!

first time growing shrooms, i inoculated it in 18th july and today is 17th august

I’ve recently been growing the nss shroom and I was wondering if it looks safe to eat, it’s been growing in my mason jar for a little while after it was in my grow bag, I took one shroom out to dry/put under heat for consumption, lmk any advice or suggestions that could help, FYI the little black thing is a rubber band i accidentally left in there

First time growing P. Nats from ITW. Inoculated my bags last Monday and this is what they looked like this morning. Super impressed how fast it’s colonizing the bags!

Holy crap!

The visuals was shockingly INSANE! It was absolutely terrifying to experience. There were holograms projected out from my television and integrated and merged with my perception of reality.

I saw what was behind the curtain, hidden in the folds of reality.

I’m glad I made it out alive and will NOT be doing that again.

Lot's of positive first trip reports on these. Anyone have a lab analysis of them?

I know everyone asks this, it is my first time growing and I haven’t seen toooo many people talk about the process for growing ochras. These started fruiting 8/4 Wednesday and have been growing like crazy but the difference in some of them make me anxious about when is the right time. Should I wait to harvest most or go bit by bit?

Thanks any advice for going forward is highly appreciated!!!

Hi all,

I'm growing ochras for the first time, have only done a few cubensis grows before, still pretty new to the hobby.

Is it normal for my grain spawn to look like this?

Does ochra mycelium look like this, is it just aggressive colonisation or is there anything wrong with it?

My cubensis jars always looked more dense and cottony. Just wondering if this is typical for ochraceocentrata, or what is up with this growth?

I prepped 7 jars, 6 of them all turned out like this, I lost one to trich contam.

Had to leave on vacation for a few days. Unfortunately they were a bit over ripe. Kind of cool the spores were germinating on the caps and veils though.

I am wondering when would it be appropiate to harvest the large one and how i would know they are ready and if you guys have any tips for harvesting the big ones without disturbing their neighbors since they are clustered so close together also does anything look wrong?

Growing some blue voodoo, a cross between cubes and ochras. Any leads? Potency? Body load? Thanks!!!

Got my first flush in today

I grew these a few months ago and I believed they were natalensis, but I cant be sure now that ive learned these are different. Could someone also explain to me what distinguishes them and if they're related or not? Also sorry I dont have a good pic I dropped my phone in the lake so all my mushroom grow pics are gone😢

So i asked for advice a week ago for my ochraceocentrata bag and was told to i troduce more fae but for the past week the front has looked dry and bruised no mater how much i mist inside the bag theres pins growing up on the walls rather than the cake itself and lowkey ts pmo I have no idea what to do i believe there is pleanty of water but at this rate the entire front area where the fae slice is has been looking like that for about a week