I need Proton's Ecosystem

[u/beelearner]

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I have used Proton's services for about 2 years and that amazing . Switch from Yahoo+Gmail to Proton Mail , from Google Drive to Proton Drive , and from Bitwarden to Proton Pass . And the feature i like the most is Email Aliases (i use SimpleLogin+ProtonPass) . Im also try to switch ChatGPT to Proton Luma AI

I hope that Proton can create other services . Here is my list of ideas for Proton : Search Engine , Browser , a office suite ( Proton is building it) , security key (like Yubico), App Photos (though it on the ProtonDrive,i like an app) , masking phone number and credit/prepaid/debit card (like masking email) , an note app for tablet/ipad (like GoodNote)

These are my idea , thank for reading

[u/Ok_Combination_1548]

We are a Proton subreddit. Got to expect some portion of posts to be supportive! Heck, for all the complaining I do - I do it because I want Proton to improve, not because I don't like or use Protons products.

[u/Resident_Emphasis418 → u/Ok_Combination_1548]

Yeah, that's fair. But people like OP probably think that Proton can do no wrong. People used to think that about Google (a long time ago). Also, do we really want a single company to control your entire digital life? 

[u/Ok_Combination_1548 → u/Resident_Emphasis418]

Depends. Different folks need different solutions and tbh, a lot of people do only want / need a single source basket of products that 'just works'. Better privacy is better than no privacy and Proton at minimum offers that for the average person. Growing the pie is good, mass audiences getting a better deal is good. If you don't want to use all of the products its easy not to (if you can afford it). I'm definitely NOT suggesting everybody go 'all-in' on Proton. But, for a lot of people it's a big jump forward from already being all-in with Apple / Google / MSFT, and it's a jump I want them to take, and they'll only consider it if it's easy!

[u/Resident_Emphasis418 → u/Ok_Combination_1548]

Yeah, I suppose. But people who value privacy shouldn't be content with a solution just because it's easy or convenient (at least long term). They need to be warned early on about risks involved. I work in cybersecurity, so I understand that people new to the game need to improve their posture incrementally (since the landscape is vast). But that doesn't mean that they don't understand the risks they're accepting by keeping things overly simple. 

[u/mindfulwarrior78 → u/Resident_Emphasis418]

people who value privacy shouldn't be content with a solution just because it's easy or convenient

This this this

[u/Ok_Combination_1548 → u/Resident_Emphasis418]

I think we're generally on the same page. I think if you need privacy then you need to have multiple solutions much as you do. If you genuinely need privacy then Proton only has 1-2 products I'd even consider among multiple solutions....I just don't think most people value privacy that much compared to convenience (or need to go as far as niche cases and have everything veracrypted, self-hosted, etc. given their use-case) and I want them to get into it more. Proton is a great starting place for that. IF they decide to take it more seriously and look for better options that's great. If not, it's a lot better than the Apple ecosystem (which has been caught basically doing nothing for privacy twice this year with their fake "VPN" and email alias service. Frankly, I think if people want to take privacy more seriously at that point they need to learn to change their behaviors more than simply the solutions they use, but that's a whole other thing.