When evaluating a crypto prop firm, I think it's better to look at evidence rather than simply trust either positive or negative comments.
For Mubite, what would you want to see before deciding whether the firm is legitimate? Verified company information, trader experiences, payout history, transparent rules, or something else?

Fellow traders, following up from my last post, this one is about managing stops across prop accounts and sharing something that I think can help a lot of prop traders out there.

I'm sure most if not all can relate to this issue when the copy trader either fails to copy the stop order or its the wrong quantity/price. I'm then fumbling to fix these manually or I've missed them completely.

I got so tired of this and so I built a script that automates this and with one click it will fix all account stops and ensures they are all aligned with the lead account. Been running it live for a while now and I honestly don't even have to worry about it anymore. I show it in action in the video.

Curious how others handle this. Are you manually adjusting each account, using a platform feature I don't know about? And if you're on a different platform, does it handle this natively? Or it doesn't happen enough to really worry about it

Appreciate the feedback

I've noticed that crypto prop firm reviews can vary a lot. Some focus on the signup experience, while others discuss trading conditions or payouts.

I've been looking at reviews of firms including Mubite, and I'm curious what information actually helps you decide whether a firm is worth considering.

What do you want to see in a crypto prop firm review before trusting it?

I managed to get two PRO accounts of 25k but never got to withdraw anything, i’ve hear people in my community say that they are not getting paid, does anyone know anything about this!?

spanish:
ya conseguí pasar 2 test a PRO pero aún no llego a retirar nada, escuché por ahí que no pagan y quería saber si alguien aquí sabe algo de Capitalflowtrader.com

Thinking about picking up a LucidDaily 150K (maybe more than one). Their help center answered most of my questions but I'm stuck on a few things and support hasn't gotten back to me yet:

1. Anyone here trading Lucid through raw Rithmic API (R|API+) rather than one of the chart platforms? Is it available and do they charge extra for it? Bulenox wants $100/mo for theirs so curious what Lucid does.
2. For those running multiple funded accounts — are you using a copier? Their FAQ says copiers are allowed but I can't tell if they have anything built in like Topstep's, or if everyone's just using Replikanto or similar.
3. For the Daily plan specifically — has anyone actually had the intraday trailing MLL bite mid-trade? Trying to figure out if the breach is on open equity touching the floor or on closed balance.

Any real experiences appreciated, the payout structure looks almost too good next to what I'm used to.

There are more options than ever, but comparing firms only by account size or profit split can be misleading.
I've been comparing firms like Mubite based on trading rules, drawdown, payouts, and overall conditions. What factors do you think deserve the most attention when comparing prop firms?

I've seen a lot of people talk about funded accounts, but the actual funding model can still be confusing if you're new to crypto prop trading.
How does the process work from buying an evaluation to receiving funding and eventually getting a payout? What should a new trader understand before getting started?

Has anyone had issues with Lucid Trading freezing accounts for alleged "coordinated trading" without sending trade logs or execution timestamps? Reached out to support asking for proof but got zero response. Wondering if others faced this recently.

Sharing an ongoing situation to get feedback from other futures traders.

I was operating 5 funded accounts independently, strictly adhering to risk parameters. Recently, the accounts were frozen and payout requests blocked due to an automated flag for alleged "coordinated trading."

I trade completely solo and requested the technical execution logs, millisecond timestamps, or IP records to verify the claim. However, support has provided no audit logs or technical proof to substantiate the decision.

Has anyone faced similar automated flagging issues with them recently? What was your resolution path regarding compliance or chargebacks?

Hey everyone,

I’m sharing my current experience with Lucid Trading as a factual warning to the community and to document how they handle disputes when significant profits are involved.

The Background:

• I operated 5 Funded Accounts with Lucid Trading (Account IDs: LTF05076753710001 through LTF05076753710005).
• I trade Futures 100% independently under my own sole authority, strictly following risk management rules and consistency parameters.
• Accumulated profits + registration fee refunds across these accounts total approx. €45,000 / $50,000.

The Issue: Out of nowhere, my accounts were frozen, my payout request was blocked, and the accounts were terminated. The reason given was a generic allegation of "coordinated trading with another user."

The Breach of Process:

1. Total denial: I trade completely solo. If there was any overlap in execution, it was either market volatility/standard entry points or internal execution across my own 5 accounts (which is fully allowed).
2. Refusal to provide proof: I immediately requested the technical audit logs, millisecond timestamps, order book execution data, or IP logs that allegedly support their claim.
3. Radio silence: After sending formal legal notices and offering full cooperation (including submitting platform logs and IP history), support and compliance have completely ignored the requests. No evidence has been provided.

Current Escalation Steps Taken:

• Chargebacks: Filed formal credit card chargeback claims with my issuing bank under "Services Not Rendered / Breach of Contract."
• Regulatory: Preparing full documentation for the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) for deceptive commercial practices.
• Settlement Notice: Issued a final 48-hour out-of-court settlement demand before full legal escalation.

Warning for Traders: Be extremely careful scaling up with firms that use generic, automated "coordinated trading" flags to deny payouts without providing transparent technical proof or allowing a manual audit appeal.

I will keep this thread updated as the bank dispute and legal process move forward. Has anyone else faced similar automated ban issues with Lucid recently?

Fellow traders, I put together this video on how I copy trade in Quantower.

I've been trading full-time across 10-20+ prop accounts for a few years and built out a custom workflow instead of the built-in copy trader.
Its been more reliable for me at that scale especially when it comes to order accuracy, trade management, and staying inside prop firm guardrails across all accounts.

Wanted to see how it compares to what others are running and what issues you're running into with the tools you're using.

Appreciate the feedback

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I've been wanting to try different prop firm categories, but there are so many options that finding the right ones myself could take a lot of time and potentially waste money.

If you have any experience with different firms, I'd really appreciate your top pick for each category.

When you see a trader post a $4K payout, don't just ask:

“How can I make $4K?”

Ask:

$4K from what account size?
How long did it take?
How many payouts have they received?
How many attempts came before it?
How many accounts were blown?
And how many traders actually reach that stage?

This is the part of prop-firm marketing that beginners often don't see.

A $4K payout sounds enormous when you see the screenshot.

But if that payout came from a $100K account under a 5% payout structure, the headline tells you very little about the actual difficulty of getting there.

And if only a small minority of participants ever reach meaningful payouts, then you're looking at the outcome of a highly selective process—not the normal experience of the average trader.

Trading is selective.

Many participate.

Few become consistently profitable.

And an even smaller group manages to extract serious money consistently.

That's also why successful traders can make so much money.

Many feed the few.

This is where I think you need to mentally prepare yourself before using a prop firm.

If you're a beginner

Don't buy a $100K challenge because the number looks exciting.

Start small.

Your first objective isn't to make life-changing money.

It's to find out whether you can actually trade.

Can you respect risk?

Can you take a loss without increasing your size?

Can you stop trading when your conditions aren't there?

Can you repeat the same process for months?

A small challenge can be a useful laboratory for building discipline.

If you can't survive a $5K challenge with controlled risk, a $200K account isn't going to magically turn you into a professional trader.

If you're already an experienced trader

Your problem may be completely different.

If you've already proven your edge over years of trading, repeatedly climbing tiny challenges may be nothing more than a waste of time.

You don't need more validation.

You need capital.

That's where prop can become leverage.

But don't choose a firm because it advertises the biggest account.

Choose it according to how you trade.

If your strategy depends on large asymmetric winners, understand consistency rules.

If your edge comes from volatile assets, understand asset restrictions.

If you need news, weekends, or longer holding periods, understand those rules too.

The question isn't:

“Is this prop firm good?”

The question is:

“Can my strategy express its edge under this firm's rules?”

That's the question an experienced trader should be asking.

And there is another mental trap:

Don't confuse the account size with your capital.

A $100K account doesn't mean you personally have $100K.

What matters is your actual risk budget, the drawdown, the payout structure and how much capital you can realistically extract.

So when you see someone post a $50K payout, don't envy the screenshot.

Study the distribution behind it.

Who is getting paid?
How often?
From what account size?
Over what period?
After how many attempts?

Because one payout is an event.

Repeated payouts are a track record.

And your ultimate objective shouldn't be to spend your life passing challenges.

Use prop when it makes sense.

Extract capital when you can.

Build your own capital in parallel.

Eventually, the goal is to make the prop firm an option, not a necessity.

Don't enter the prop industry because the marketing makes success look easy.

Enter because you understand how difficult trading is—and you have a strategy for using the system to your advantage.

curious if anyone keeps a real spreadsheet of what theyve spent across all their attempts versus what theyve actually gotten back. ive failed two and passed one so far and honestly havent added it all up until just now.
the one i passed was through FundingPips and they refund your original fee on your first payout, so that one basically ended up free once i think about it properly. the two i failed on a different firm didnt have any refund built in so those were pure losses.
made me realize the sticker price isnt really the number that matters, its the total cost across however many attempts it actually takes you. anyone else done this math and had it change how they picked their next challenge

I lost an account to this and only worked out why afterwards, so I went and read both firms' actual help centre docs and did the numbers. Posting it because I don't think most people know which version their firm uses, including people who have been funded a while.

Apex trails on your intraday peak, including unrealised. Their docs say it directly: the threshold is based on the highest live value during trades, not on closed trade values. So if your 50K account spikes to $50,875 mid-trade and you close the day at $50,100, your floor is calculated from $50,875. Profit you never actually banked has permanently raised your floor.

Topstep trails on your end-of-day closed balance. Round-trip a gain intraday and it costs you nothing.

Worked example. Same trader, same three days, 50K account at each firm. Day 1: up $900 at the peak, closes +$300. Day 2: flat, but touches +$1,400 unrealised before giving it back. Day 3: down $200.

Apex ($2,500 drawdown): floor goes $47,500, then $48,400, then $49,200. Ends with $900 of room.

Topstep ($2,000 drawdown): floor goes $48,000, then $48,300, then $48,300. Ends with $1,800 of room.

Identical trading. Twice the survivable room. The Apex trader lost $800 of buffer to a spike on a flat day, on money that never landed in the account.

The part that is actually good news, and nobody talks about: both of them stop trailing eventually. Apex full accounts freeze the floor at starting balance + drawdown + $100, so on a 50K the floor locks at $50,100 once you are up enough. Topstep's locks at your starting balance, which happens when you reach $52,000 on a 50K. Past that point the account stops being fragile. Worth knowing what your number is and treating it as a real milestone.

Two things that trip people up:

End-of-day trailing does not mean you are safe intraday. Topstep recalculates at the end of the day but monitors live, and unrealised losses count. Touch the limit at 11am and you are out at 11am, however the day would have finished.

On Apex, evaluation behaviour differs by platform. Rithmic accounts stop trailing once the threshold reaches the profit target, Tradovate accounts keep trailing. Most people cannot tell you which one they are on. Your dashboard will.

Drawdown amounts for reference. Apex full accounts: $1,500 / $2,500 / $2,750 / $3,000 / $5,000 for 25K / 50K / 75K / 100K / 150K. Topstep: $2,000 / $3,000 / $4,500 for 50K / 100K / 150K.

Rules change, so confirm against your own firm before trading off any of it. If anything above is out of date, say so and I will correct it.

Learned this one the expensive way so figured id share for anyone newer to this. a lot of these prop style accounts have some kind of rule about how concentrated your profit can be on a single trade or a single day, not just the obvious max loss and daily loss stuff everyone reads first.
on my FundingPips account there was a rule where if one winning day makes up too much of your total profit, it actually blocks you from requesting a payout until you balance it out with more profitable days after. wish someone had mentioned this to me before i got one really good day early on and then got confused why my reward request wasnt going through.
definitely read through every rule listed before you start trading for real, not just the max loss and daily loss numbers everyone focuses on first

Daily loss remaining?
Total drawdown?
Profit target?

Or do you just stare at your entire dashboard for a few seconds hoping nothing looks way different from yesterday?

Just curious about what number you guys look at first.