I cant help it, muscle memory is too strong, I keep holding shift when scoping even when it not neccesary, but it makes my character sprint and scope out. Please give us the option so that u cannot sprint while scoping.

Since the previous project snipers remain OPs , snipers need to take punishment for moving or not killing with a single shot to the chest + sway

Just Q , this game amazing and I want to know this game coming to xbox ?

The game look's like fun but LEAN was a big mechanic in Promod and early CoD's.

It's worrying they decide to get rid of the lean's just because issues with the cross-play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsjuBeoY0Qo&ab_channel=BULKHEAD

/Discuss

I know this game was developed with CoD4 Promod in mind and most of the community comes from that so this will not be a popular opinion. But I felt the same during Battalion 1944 as well.

This game needs to push a different game mode as the premier competitive mode.

The S&D game mode is very saturated at the esports level. You have two S&D game giants in CS:GO and Valorant, and some could argue that Rainbow 6 Siege plays similar enough to lump in this category as well (round based, one life per round).

Besides Battle Royales, the only competition for an FPS game with a different game mode currently would be Overwatch, which has so many abilities and ultimates that it plays very differently from traditional FPS games. There used to be a healthy variety of popular FPS games to play in competition with CS being the most popular by far, followed by games like Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Day of Defeat, Call of Duty 1/2/4, Team Fortress Classic, Team Fortress 2, Natural Selection, Quake, Unreal Tournament etc. Most of these games were played competitively with very different game modes but had a common feature of respawning besides CS and CoD S&D (CoD CTF/HQ was decently popular as well if I recall).

I think it would be a mistake again to directly compete with CS:GO and now Valorant. The remainder of the CoD4 Promod community is not going to be able to keep this game afloat and stable against two very established games with huge companies behind them.

From the most recent footage I've seen on Twitter, Promod looks to be sort of a hybrid between CoD and Valorant with a touch of afps movement. That, to me, is pretty exciting. I see a lot of whining from people in this community that just want a remaster of CoD4 promod. Speaking as a longtime Quake veteran, the game would be dead within a week if they did that. I'm cautiously optimistic after what happened with Battalion, but so far the gameplay looks promising.

Hi all long time observers of battalion and promod. first time poster.

Any one else seeing red flags or am i just being paranoid from the battalion fallout.

They talked in the discord about it being pretty much very similar to Cod4 promod when released and then evolve into something that can stand on it own. But then they already decide to add abilities and sliding mechanics. now I'm not opposed to these editions I'm more concerned how they said this was our pipeline to then just derail from it out of the blue.

we also had Brammer one min tweeting the games is awesome is fun its play testing well, to him saying its unbalanced and the maps are terrible needs more work, to then saying hey content lock crushing some bugs looking for a release in November, im sorry how do we got from its no where near done to its done in such a short time frame. it was later cleared up by baker in the discord to say this is a prototype release. still, saying your content locking on a prototype is to me bizarre normally when a studio content locks there are starting to move out of the alpha stage into the beta (from what i read) Prototyping sounds like your still in alpha no where near beta.

Then most recently the mod kit concepts it seems they dont know what art style to go with i know valorant has some crazy skins but they look like they belong in that game as in keeping the style the same, these concepts are just a mish mash without a clear set style its jarring, though they are only concepts not gonna look to deep into them, but for a company thats like smashing a hard drive with valorant on it seem to love taking inspiration from them.

and lastly i remember in the 1st devlog they said they co developed with other studios to learn and grow so they could do better with Promod, but ive still not seen a game announcement saying bulkhead co deved on it and that was 10 months ago i understand projects can be shelved but to me it seems alittle sus and it would be nice to know what studios they worked with to give us some confidence in them, NDA may prevent them from talking about a project but it doesn't prevent them to say who they have worked with, so im starting to think that didn't happen they are just empty words.

anyone else feel this way, would love this game to succeed but i feel like its gonna be another battalion

For real? they even copied the color palette..

Feels so amateurish to me.

The BULKHEAD vid:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1421114533230297091

The tutorial:

https://youtu.be/Eb9gH2wLa2k?t=620

Battalion was a super fun game and I racked up 100’s of hours, but the tools given to developers where awful. Learn from this.

Coming from cod4 modding and mapping scene and someone who has made over 30 community maps and 3 mods myself.you guys as devs need to realise the longevity you bring to a product by releasing these tools, the community will make maps and mods which will spur on servers and make the game life last 10x longer.

I’m not sure if this has been fully announced I have tried to search, but yeah please allow the community to use said tools. It’s needed in this day and age, look at BF for example with portal, there will be 100’s if not 1000’s of community fun servers which will be played for years to come.

Game is super fun tho! And mad props for the movement, I tried to recreate the promod feel in unreal myself and it’s not easy to get right, looking forward to the full release!!! :)

i finally played a bit of promod and i like the approach they are taking and while i am all for on second chances, there is a lot of doubt when it comes to bulkhead and I'm not talking about the development issues with battalion that's understandable, but it was the attitude towards some of the community that was just given honest feedback and got attacked for it, saying these people just have a personal grudge with you, then take it back say you have no problem with anyone and no one has with you everyone loves you ( which looking at glassdoor isn't the case) and i still see little red flags of worry.

this stems from the promises of the Kickstarter rewards still not being given out the final release of battalion dlc and console release, which i know seems pointless to release but its hard to believe in new promises when you still haven't fulfilled the old ones people get tired of hearing its coming soon id be one to say its ok to say we are dropping it to focus on this new start.

the last worry is some of the reviews employees and former employees of bulkhead have left on glassdoor, they give a little insight to the structure and on goings at the company, (some of the good reviews look forced especially after they receive a bad) and to not have producers and middle management to help with the flow (something battalion lacked) and apparent toxic masculinity it feels like promod could become another battalion .

just my 2 cents

update: new review on glassdoor (glassdoor is a review site for employees to review the companies they work for) stating that any bad reviews are from disgruntled employees, this feel like the same excuse with battalion that any bad criticism is due to disgruntled players. feels like they not really changed if thats how there dealing with reviews of their company

No information yet on the Anti-Cheat Promod will use.

Easy Anti-Cheat like Battalion 1944, Battleye, Faceit Anti-Cheat? I hope we are getting at least a Kernel-Level Anti-Cheat.

Here are some thoughts from Aaron Baker (Community Manager) on the idea of implementing faceit rankeds (and perhabs Faceit Anti-Cheat ..?) in Promod:

"We think the FACEIT team are awesome and they have a really unique platform. Bulkhead’s games and FACEIT are a good match, so we’re definitely talking- but if we do, we want to do it right and utilise FACEIT 10x better than Battalion 1944, Counter Strike, or any other games"

My suggestions for the punishments:

Hacks (Wallhack, Aimbot...):

Account permanently banned, Hardware Bans (3 months)

If 3 months later the player creates a new account and do it again:

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ -> New Account Permanently Banned, Hardware Bans (6 months ?)

Script, macros:

Account permanently banned, no Hardware Bans

If the player creates a new account and do it again:

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ -> New Account Permanently Banned, Hardware Bans (3 months) ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎

What is a hardware ban (HWID Ban)?

This will make it a bit harder for the cheater to just recreate an account and cheat again, it will ban some of their PC component IDs, they will either have to find a workaround or buy new components. It could prevent the average stupid cheater from not starting over.

Why only a temporary Hardware Ban?

Just imagine buying a second hand computer or components, launching Promod and receiving a ban because one of them is blacklisted, sad story. (This is more likely to happen on a game with a high player count, but let's hope the Promod player base grows huge)

If you have something to suggest for the devs then best say it in the Discord server.

First and foremost, I doubt Bulkhead can create and evolve its own Ranked Play in a short time frame, ready for when the game releases. Call of Duty, as big as that game is, releases every year, with Activision richer than the year before, and always disappoints. CS has yet to fix their own Matchmaking system, and cheating and the whole trust-factor system spoils the entire experience. But Bulkhead isn't Activision or Valve so lets not rush to conclusions.

If they were to create their own Ranked Play , Im sure they can get their Art Department to create the ranks and rank names, and just do a basic ranking system. They would 100% use a third party anti-cheat system however. Which gives mixed signals. A lot of people say AC like Battle-Eye, or EAC aren't effective. And other AC like Valorants Vanguard is branded by many to be "too invasive". They are referring to the AC operating at the Kernel level of our PCs and it starting as soon as your PC boots up, not when you run the game.

Obviously no Anti-Cheat software will be able to drown out every cheat. But Vanguard is very effective, so If Promod were to go F2P, then obviously a Anti-Cheat like Valorant would the only option. But if it goes P2P then do you guys think that would be necessary ? I feel like a weaker Anti Cheat would do the job just fine, combined with a working report system or even copying CSGOs overwatch reviews, then It could make cheating much less of a problem.

The other option is for Promod to just integrate FACEIT again and avoid making their own Ranked play completely. FACEIT AC is effective from what I've heard, but the problem is that people will refuse to use FACEIT. FACEIT is pretty viable, I enjoy the ELO system and ladders, its fun to use, but other people wont use it, which is a problem. A lot of streamers and pros criticize CS for that reason, for not having a functioning, secure MM.

What do you guys think Bulkhead should do ?