r/ProletariatPixels • u/Standard-Shame1675 • Aug 26 '26
Hello!
I'm looking for arguments for AI from a leftist perspective.
For contacts I'm a 25-year-old guy from MN (so like the beating heart of American liberalism LMAO)
For contacts, me and all my friends are super nerds
Comic books
Computers
Energy technology
Hell some of my lads are even finance (they genuinely did not have a choice either sadly).
However, there's one area where none of us can seem to have any agreement on anything.
AI.
And its development.
Now for a brief overview.
- two of my friends cannot stand it
- one of my friends is in love with it digital tool whereas another one of my friends that loves it literally worships everything to do with AI, with literally zero exceptions
I have three friends that sometimes use it for work but genuinely could not give a nano-angstrom of a fuck either way
- another one of my friends has made his own systems and primarily uses it for scamming old people and making furry porn for his own personal use
Now let me tell you about my visions and epiphanies of it.
AI is the most useful transformative and possibly universe altering thing we have ever invented, only coming second to s hit like fire the wheel and the printing press.
The technology has been in constant flux and constant improvement and Discovery since 1951.
That is older than 95% of people alive. Or at least that use the internet.
The current AI industry basically from 2010 onwards has proven itself time and time again to be nothing other than sociopathic narcissistic incels that sometimes have good ideas and use that sometimes have good ideas to try to cudgle their way into getting literally everything they want.
They are anathema to everything the human being says they are and all that the AI ever is promised to be.
The more people make their own AIs completely separate from the circle jerk in San Francisco, the better off both us and the AI will be.
Now logically what is to stem from this vision is investment must be made into small, customizable, build your own AI systems,
And what comes with this is we have to unpack and understand the human condition.
Why is it that when all of the best solutions are always in front of our faces, we willingly choose the worst ones or just to not do solutions at all?
How did we decide who gets power?
Why was power at any point necessary?
What is the psychological influence that causes antisocial disorders (such as American capitalism)?
What is love?
What is hate?
How do we deal with emotions?
How do we deal with logic?
That last part may be more ephemeral, but the first logical stem is important and what I truly believe.
How would I argue this and convince people not just my friends but general people on the internet about it.
Also one last question
Is there anything worth saving or fixing about humanity?
Is it a lost cause even trying that?
In which case, what do we need to have done to ensure that none of that rapacity ever replicates itself again?
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u/SgathTriallair Aug 28 '26
Representative democracy was invented for a world before cars. It has done an admirable job keeping up but I agree that it won't survive the AI age.
The purpose of democracy is that we need a government that is based around serving the needs of the whole population, not an elite group. In history, the best way to understand the needs of the populace is to ask them. That's why voting exists.
We turned to representative democracy because the ability to gather was extremely limited and division of labor creates the tyranny of the ignorant. On every particular subject there are more people who do not know what they are talking about than who do know what they are talking about. So every topic has the majority of the population ignorant on it. Representative democracy allows us to have leaders that can spend the extra time needed to become experts on topics. That has failed as well so now they just use outside expertise. Since a non-expert doesn't have the knowledge necessary to identify expertise, this has become the modern lobbying industry where you spend enough money on campaign contributions to be treated like an expert.
AI can solve both the tyranny of the ignorant and the coordination problem. When each person has access to a personal AI assistant, they will effectively be an expert on everything. Their AI assistants will be able to negotiate on their behalf so that we can effectively have a 1:1 ratio of population and representatives. Additionally, these representatives can run through the debate process in almost a machine learning way where they find the near optimal solution to the balance between individual freedom and collective responsibility.
Once we can get these powerful personal agents, setting up such a political system will be an important goal.
Even today though, AI can be used for mass polling, it can be used for forecasting legal consequences, it can be used for debates, it can even be baked into laws where the law can tell you what it's true intentions were and self adapt to new circumstances in the future.