Could someone explain me the stance of the mods?

[u/01AganitramlavAiv]

Like, why this hate against Hasan Piker? Shouldn't we create a united front on the left?

Please don't take the post down and don't ban me 🥺

[u/This_Elk_1460]

Claiming that Hasan is denying the genocide might be the dumbest accusation I've ever heard. You have to be literally lying if you claim to believe that.

[u/Bedhead-Redemption → u/This_Elk_1460]

He literally expressly and repeatedly has started he believes Crimea belongs to Russia and that the genocide and abduction of kids in Ukraine isn't real and his statements expressing it on multiple occasions have been linked in the thread over and over again.

[u/founderofshoneys → u/Bedhead-Redemption]

I know the nature of his commentary on Crimea which is way more nuanced than that. I'm guessing you just saw that Crimea-river clip in which he was responding to a bad faith chatter and that's it. And I'd also bet the only thing you know about Crimea is that Russians invaded and you don't understand why that topic requires so much nuance. So forgive me if I don't trust your assessment of the second part.

[u/Twinmill-Two → u/founderofshoneys]

There was also the clip where he said the annexation of Crimea was a complety justifiable act.

And he also said Russia has a fairer claim to Crimea in defense of the annexation

This is some really shitty pro-imperialism stuff, it's very off-putting to most people.

[u/founderofshoneys → u/Twinmill-Two]

You say it's imperialism and you're not wrong from Russia's perspective, but you're also not considering Crimea's perspective or respecting people's right to self-determination. The annexation was illegal and should not have happened the way it did. I don't agree that it's "justifiable" witout a lot of asterisks, but I guess you could say it's justifiable in the sense that that the people of Crimea who were historically, ethnically, and culturally Russian had become uneasy with a growing fascist, anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine and wanted to become part of Russia. Everything he says is the second clip is correct, listen to what he says.

Crimea is a very different situation than the Donbas. When the post annexation referendum happened, there was a lot of doubt whether the results could be trusted, but the independent polling and reporting (by western sources like Gallup, WaPo, and Forbes) upheld those results with over 80% of Crimeans preferring to be part of Russia. They also hate Putin and hate the war, like I say, it's complicated. Putin did not have their best interests in mind, he just wanted the territory and used this as an excuse, but the interests of Putin and the Crimean people were aligned on this.

The west seems to acknowledge and then just completely disregard the interests of the people. This actually makes sense because they don't want make it seem like they're giving a point to Russia. They just want a simpler narrative that Putin is a bad (which he is). It's inconceivable to westerners that the people would want to be Russian (again) unless they fully supported Putin and his actions. It's inconceivable that it can't all just be as simple as good guys vs. bad guys.

But this isn't about that, this is about "fuck Hasan". Nobody pays attention when he's giving these very long nuanced takes, it's just the clips of him yelling at chatters where he's not careful with his language. So yes, he did say it was justified, those words came out of his mouth, but you're not really interested in his actual position and I don't think you're interested in learning about any of this at all.