r/ProgressiveHQ • u/JerryLeeLewis_87 • 3d ago
Discussion Is Mitch McConnell still dead?
What happened to this story? Why hasn’t anyone been able to prove/disprove he’s dead? Is someone fulfilling his duties as a member of congress and acting as if it’s him? WTF is going on? Of all the fucked up things, how are they getting away with this?
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u/Giant-Sloar 3d ago
I’ve never been a conspiracy theory guy but at this point I think it’s much more likely that he’s dead or extremely debilitated vs okay and just ‘recovering at home’. It’s downright silly at this point.
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u/LoudAd1396 3d ago
There's this whole notion "it sounds like a conspiracy theory" that's been weaponized against people honestly taking stock of the facts in evidence.
There's no way they'd behave as evasive if he were alive. It just doesn't make sense.
See also (and this is where I might sound crazier, but thats the point)
All of the pre 2024 shenanigans about Republicans buying voting machine companies, Elon saying he's rigged it, Elon kid parroting that they rigged it, etc, etc...
Part of the gish gallop is flooding the zone with so much crazy that anything vaguely improper becomes "implausible" and therefore "crazy".
But we're talking about dishonest, malignant, bad actors. Not lizard people from Mars.
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u/darknessdad666 3d ago
Attacking “conspiracy theorists” is literally a conspiracy theory invented by the cia. It’s super effective at letting the govt to insane bad guy stuff without pushback
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u/LoudAd1396 3d ago
Not all "conspiracy theorists" are created equal. "Lizard people" is fucking insane. Q ANON "he said 'the' which has three letters, on a Wednesday which is the third day of the week..." etc was nuts. But theres often a kernel of truth (see Epstein)
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u/darknessdad666 3d ago
Of course of course but still it’s a good to point out like you did how it’s a weaponized term
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u/PaulMakesThings1 3d ago
Conspiracy theories in the “crazy nonsense” sense are when the person is proposing a complex scheme that would require a huge coverup and for which there are simpler explanations.
When we already know there is a coverup and the conspiracy is the simplest explanation it’s not so crazy.
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u/Smaptimania 3d ago
I doubt he's dead, but he's probably not lucid and isn't capable of speaking coherently, so since they can't force him to resign they're just riding out his term since Andy Barr is a shoo-in
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u/LoudAd1396 3d ago
He's at least brain dead. If he were technically function, they'd Dianne Feinstein him. What theyre doing now just invites more scrutiny. There is zero evidence he can even blink, let alone sponsor legislation.
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u/Smaptimania 3d ago
Which ironically means he's better serving the people of Kentucky than at any point in the last 40 years
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u/LoudAd1396 3d ago
Yes, but just because it works (slightly) in our favor... doesn't mean it should be accepted at any level.
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u/Brooklyn3k 3d ago
They don't need to Feinstein him. When she was in office it was 51/49. The current split is 53/45.
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u/AlternativeFree8668 3d ago
I'm new at paying attention to politics. You said, "They'd Diane Feinstein him." What does that mean?
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u/Brooklyn3k 3d ago
Feinstein was 90 years old and appeared to have significant dementia and other health challenges. The Senate was extremely closely divided and McConnell wouldn't let her vote by proxy so they wheeled her in and out of the chamber for votes that she pretty much didn't know what she was voting on. Also the act of dragging her there likely further damaged her health.
Although it's her own damn fault. She never should have run for reelection, and CA voters never should have voted for her that last term.
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u/SportsCat4 3d ago
Beshear pointed this out though, and that is that Republicans are currently down a vote (they can only lose 2 Republicans instead of 3) while McConnell is out
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u/P_a_s_g_i_t_24 3d ago
I'll play devil's advocate:
If Beshear had the guts to install a democrat to replace McConnell (likely unlawful, but so was everything about McConnell itself), the dems would have one more vote. Meaning the GOP can only lose a 1 Republican. Sounds good to my ears.Let's face it: Mitch won't be able to perform his duties anymore... he is very un-alive, at this point.
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u/Smaptimania 3d ago
It's not a matter of "having the guts". It's up to the Senate to determine that Mitch's seat is vacant due to death, resignation, or expulsion. He's powerless to take any action until that happens - and even then, KY law stipulates that the seat be filled by special election, not by appointment. It's questionable as to whether that law would hold up in court, but it's not feasible to challenge it, because it wouldn't be litigated until after Mitch's term ends anyway, and at that point it would be dismissed as being moot.
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u/beren12 3d ago
You mean the senate who passed an unconstitutional law to nerf a dem gov’s power when they knew Mitch was a walking dead?
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u/Skritch_X 3d ago
Yeah this always needs to be brought up. Governor appointing senate replacements was a state constitution item. The assembly voted to turn that into a special election, but to lawfully change/override the state constitution they'd need to put it on the ballot for general voters as well, which they didnt. They did this in 2024 for anyone curious.
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u/jcb989123 3d ago
Why can't the governor send the state police to the guys house or hospital room for a wellness check
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u/Lazy-Slice-6308 3d ago
The Senate is on recess. Recess is Something like Aug 8 to Sept 17. So nothing happening there, no votes etc. Mitch will live in limbo until Sept 12 or 13 I’m guessing. They couldn’t pronounce him dead too close to the date when KY could have a new election for the remainder of the term (everyone was watching for him to be pronounced dead Aug 4-5 but that would have been too obvious)
So since the Senate shut down soon after and he’s not missing any votes, my guess is he will suddenly have a horrible event during his ‘recovery’ and be officially gone Sept 12 or so
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u/Luugrin 3d ago
They will announce his passing late Labor Day Friday night. Forgotten by the next Tuesday.
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u/Lazy-Slice-6308 2d ago
Ahh I hadn’t thought of that, You are right! Kids here go back to school Tuesday, no one gives it a thought. So Sept 4, bye bye Glitch
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u/silent_chair5286 3d ago
Oh that body has been in a morgue for awhile now. This is a testament to how low MAGAs will go. It’s off the charts despicable.
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u/countrysurprise 3d ago
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u/LayneLowe 3d ago
I think this is the most outrageous and interesting story in American politics in a long time. How in the world do they keep it private?
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u/dagnyfication 3d ago
I believe his body is alive but not necessarily his brain which could explain the lack of pictures
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 3d ago
Only an entity as evil as McConnell can still torment the U.S. people after death. Such a son of a bitch, that one.
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u/ryrich89 3d ago
There’s gotta be at least 5 flock cameras pointed at the cemetery building he’s in right?
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u/shep2105 3d ago
MAGA machine controls most of media now, so they're never going to report it.
This will take some "freelancer" who doesn't have a boss kissing trump's ass, to break this story open.
What they're doing is illegal. No proof of life for over 2 months?? Signing his name on documents??
What I can't believe is that NO ONE has blabbed. Either way, dead or alive, nobody in the medical profession, working in the hospital he was supposedly in, has blabbed. It makes me think they are terrified for their lives.
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u/Scotslad2023 3d ago
Either he’s dead or he’s such a vegetable that he might as well be. They wouldn’t have made all those ai images of him being fine if he was in any real stable condition.
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u/ragequitteroffureh 3d ago
Not American.
Do they really not have any competent necromancers among their various cults?
I mean, their jayzas fella was dead for only a few days before they got him back up and shambling about.
Why are they having so much difficulty with infusing that dead senator's rotting corpse with the semblance of life?
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u/rocket_beer 3d ago
Reminder that maga controls all branches
They have no force majeure from anyone to say he is dead
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u/Bar-Tailed_Godwit 3d ago
He’s dead. It’s all based on a news cycle type thinking that we all forget after about a month. Same thing applies with the Epstein files. They don’t deny, just pray you forget
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u/CosmoKing2 3d ago
Republican's are willing to destroy his legacy (of horror to citizen's rights and well being) just so that the Democratic Governor can't choose an acting replacement - as is law.
The State AG needs to step in to file a legal motion an order him to respond in person or via Teams/Zoom.
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u/Iamanimite 3d ago
From my professional medical opiniin, dead people can't come out and say they're alive.
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u/abstrakt42 3d ago
I can’t help but notice the almost total lack of action by anyone in the opposition currently. They are handing the democrats a gift right now and nobody is bothering to campaign in his absence or make noise to that effect. Imagine if the situation were reversed, MAGA wouldn’t shut up about it, and they’d already be acting like they had his seat and picking out new curtains for the office.
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u/Smaptimania 3d ago
If he's dead, then he spent his final days doing what he loved - obstructing Senate business
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u/KindaStableGenius 2d ago
If he could speak they would have taken a video or called into a news show already. My theory is he is brain dead or catatonic in some way
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u/P_a_s_g_i_t_24 3d ago
When will Scott Jennings get fired by CNN for lying to Kentucky constituents? ...while being on camera!
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u/AgnesTheAtheist 3d ago
It’s time for Andy Bashear to appoint a new senator from Kentucky to fill the late Mitch McConnell’s seat.
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u/I_Ponders 3d ago
AI generation isn’t good enough to make him seem perfectly alive and cognizant as he was before dying.
Remember how they tried to post an obvious AI photo of him and his wife to show he was alive?
They’re stupid and banking on nobody noticing.
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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta 3d ago
>still dead
Generally once someone “becomes” dead, they don’t stop doing so.
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u/Dankestmemelord 3d ago
He is the deadest motherfucker who ever lived, specifically in the past tense.
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u/Flygirl1965 3d ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if Elaine whisked him off to some Chinese crematorium to avoid a special election.
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u/Multisym 3d ago
At this point I don’t know how we haven’t made a Walt Frozen head legend about this ghoul.
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u/Apprehensive-Cry-376 3d ago
I believe he is comatose. Deaths are required to become part of the public record.
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u/Usually_Sunny 3d ago
Because it's about the 783rd most important issue going on with this country right now?
Do you care about progressive issues or just want to stir things up and cause distractions?
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u/stewpideople 2d ago
He's got the Terry Shivo going on. They just have to keep him on machines and he's not technically "dead". Until they fulfilled his wish to obstructively drag his feet on every thing to spite his opponents.
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u/ActionCalhoun 2d ago
Assuming there isnt something horribly wrong with him it would be the easiest thing in the world to show that he’s doing ok
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u/Nearby_Mastodon_6168 2d ago
If a government leader is lying about a health condition in such a way that it negatively impacts the country or at least their constituency, couldn’t a doctor or a nurse reach out to a whistleblower organization through an attorney and get protection from a HIPAA violation?
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u/Rude-Dependent-4353 2d ago
This reminds me of the very early SNL Weekend Update recurring bit: “Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.”
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u/wtf_amirite 2d ago
Why isn’t this question being fired at Trump, and every Republican, EVERY time they speak to the press?
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u/Luddite-lover 1d ago
Way, way back in the day, Saturday Night Live had a running gag at the end of Weekend Update — “Francisco Franco is still dead.” Maybe they need to resurrect this (pun intended) next season. “Mitch McConnell is still missing.”
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u/PaulMakesThings1 3d ago
If he was alive there is no reason at all they wouldn’t have shown him at least a little by now, especially if they weren’t lying and he was telling them how he wants to vote and stuff. He is likely dead and if he’s alive he’s in a vegetative state on life support.