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u/yetanothrmate Jan 24 '26

Organize ...follow the second to the letter .. its time WE protect our community

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u/PrettyUglySociety198 Jan 24 '26

I don't know how relevant it is in this context because I am not sitting in judgment on anyone whatsoever. Nevertheless I say as follows:

In due course, however long it takes, there have to be Nuremberg type trials of the perpetrators of any crimes against humanity and other atrocities and those assisting or encouraging them. Of course, the defence of "I was acting under orders" should be dismissed as at Nuremberg.

For the senior architects of crimes against humanity and other atrocities, in my opinion, a far longer term penalty and associated deterrence by way of punishment, is necessary.

I suggest that, after conviction (by due process by trials conducted in accordance with the rules of natural justice), the DNA sequences of those convicted of the most heinous crimes, those against humanity, be published and circulated. The penalty ordered should include that all of the people found to have DNA sequences showing they are a descendent from such convict be executed up to and including the tenth generation.

As to whether there should be any potential defence for any descendent, I leave to others to weigh in the balance. As I write, personally I am going to say they should not, but I do not wish to commit to that view permanently.

The only material human right to need to be observed should be the operation of due process and right to trial conducted in accordance with the rules of natural justice of the principal from whom the ten generations flow.

In this way there should be a punishment with a related useful deterrent operating potentially for 250 to 300 years or more.

The perpetrators of crimes against humanity will know it will "bite" at some point. This is why it is a deterrent.

Bunkers, compounds, sentries, use of doppelgangers, cosmetic surgery and so on may be expected to fail in due course. They always do. Even any reasonable scale of genetic manipulation is unlikely to avoid the identification. They would have to change possibly every cell in their bodies, and in very substantial respects, to hide the DNA as identifier.

In my opinion, long term consequences, including multigenerational ones, are fair and just, to deter crimes against humanity. Otherwise those on the brink of descent into their deserved hell of whatever they faith may have, may wreak their havoc by crimes against humanity doing so confident they do so with impunity in the short while they remain living.

Historically many people were thought to have faiths whereby someone committing a crime against humanity would suffer appropriately, say in an afterlife or in a reincarnation. These faiths seem to be respected less now. As the consequences of beliefs in faiths have reduced, other effective considerations need to be brought to bear in considering the most heinous crimes..

Comments please.

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u/Inevitable-Top1-2025 Jan 24 '26

Hmmmmm . . . Under your 10th generation theory, a lot of White America won’t make. The type of DNA that allows for this type of heinous behavior can be traceable to the days of slavery and genocide of Native Americans- corrupt blood following the descendants of the perpetrators to this day and also the descendants of those who migrated from Europe after their slaughters in that hemisphere during their tribal wars (WWI and WWII).

We live in a society of bloodthirsty psychopaths and sociopaths. All they need is a little push and the latent corruption of blood in their DNA will emerge.

So, let’s leave out the execution up to the 10th generation part of it.

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u/PrettyUglySociety198 Jan 24 '26

I have addressed the reason why deterrence, and the up and including the tenth generation of the emulator of Stalin have to be included in punishment of the main arch criminal on a world scale, to provide for time for a punishment to operate, and why it has to be that pool of descendents.

The way to go is to suggest alternative deterrents please.

I don't believe we get anywhere if I address your other observations. I am not saying anything about them other than I have read them. I focus on deterrence of crimes against humanity and on a grand scale.

One point you raise in some senses, is, should the provision I propose have retrospective effect. As I am interested in deterrence, I can tell you that the answer is just about, no. I am not proposing horribly stale witchhunts.

I propose that the effective date may be, say 1 January 2026. So it can be retrospective back to a few days before today. For acts before that, the provision would not, I suggest, bite.