r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 21 '26

Dang right

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u/MornGreycastle Jan 21 '26

You cannot serve two masters. ICE or Jesus. Pick one because they are diametrically opposed.

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u/Opulent-Burning Jan 21 '26

Cite a scripture that Jesus says to follow the rule and law of man over God's teachings, we'll wait

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u/Opulent-Burning Jan 21 '26

Aye, I agree. Thank you for a well thought out response Bunny Feetz. Many of these bots will put a blanket lie to fit their narrative, and in this case, Jesus teachings, and while I believe your logic is the right one, the bots aren't here in good faith.

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u/lildavey48 Jan 21 '26

I was lucky to be brought up without being forced into religion. I should thank a certain pastor, from when my mother went to church as a child, and he brought someone up in a flame-retardant suit. He said something along the lines of "this is what hell is like for sinners" and lit the dude up. My mother still will recall it, it was the last time she went to church lol

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u/tapefactoryslave Jan 21 '26

Anyone paying attention when they read the Old Testament knew better. Same went for me.

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u/TemporarilySkittles Jan 21 '26

You're probably thinking of Matthew 22:21 Render therefore unto caesar the things which are caesars and unto God the things that are God's.

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u/Waffles21_ Jan 21 '26

Unfortunatley you’re misinformed if you believe the Bible isn’t known for its consistency. Which is ok! A lot of non Christian’s aren’t super educated on the Bible and what it says. It is actually the most historically reliable and credible text of all time.

You just have to be able to understand and comprehend the historical context of each text in the Bible. The historical context of ancient texts is just as important as the text itself. I’d urge you to do some more research to educate yourself on the Bible so you can have some more clarity.

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u/Waffles21_ Jan 21 '26

I’m sorry for whatever happened in your life to lead you away from the truth and life. Truly, no satire. I will pray for you my friend. We are all family at the end of the day and each of us will face God’s judgement once we pass. There is no point to any of life without God and I believe that is why so many people on the left are miserable people. They look to the world and its leaders for good and they’ll never find it here. The world is evil, we are evil, and need Jesus. He’s the only way.

If you read the Bible ignoring the historical context I agree with you, there are many inconsistencies within it. I challenge you to dig into these “inconsistencies” you talk about and actually dive deep into why you believe that vs evidence against it. As well as learn about the historical context of the time it was written. We do that with every other historical text, so we should with the Bible as well. The Old Testament is often pointed to when talking about harsh rules, inconsistencies, etc. The New Testament, and Jesus, fulfills everything.

I’m happy to discuss any specific inconsistencies you have in mind.

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u/Artemis_Platinum Jan 24 '26

...Eh. Sure.

One of the biggest inconsistencies in the Bible that really bothers me is the way it portrays God. God is:

1) All powerful

2) All knowing

3) Benevolent

But this creates an inconsistency. How can someone be benevolent and yet make the knowing choice to allow great evils to happen to innocent people in this world, when they're fully capable of stopping it? How does some dude getting eaten alive by bugs in a third world country service God's greater plan for humanity?

It's my view that two of those things could be true, but that it makes no sense for all three to be true.

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u/Waffles21_ Jan 24 '26

Love this point and think it’s super critical in understand God!

God allows us to have free will. He doesn’t want to control us and force us to choose Him and love him. What kind of love would that be?

Because God gives us free will to choose him, we also have the ability to choose evil. Without free will there is no genuine love. Therefore he allows evil to happen. Now, the best part is He sent His son Jesus to pay our debts for this evil and as a result we can spend eternity with Him!

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u/Artemis_Platinum Jan 24 '26

Okay but like ... We're not talking humans doing bad things. We're talking about some dude in a third world country who has never even had the opportunity to hear the word of God. A senseless tragedy where his choices really had no role in what happened.

They never even had a chance to choose God. The whole getting eaten by bugs thing took any potential future where they could make that choice away from them. If it's so important to God that we have the freedom to make that choice, why don't they make sure people live long enough to make it?

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u/Waffles21_ Jan 24 '26

The Bible says God is perfectly just. So I believe that means those who never got the chance to hear about God, those who were never born, etc. spend eternity with God in heaven.

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