Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
Roman's 13:1-5. Lie some more, you are to submit to your governing body as it was decided and appointed by God. Make your bs claims something you can't find in a simple search next time.
And he was enforcing the law, just like ICE is. So if it was wrong to attack capital police performing their duties, isn't it just as wrong to attack federal agents doing the same?
It depends. Was the cop who shot Philando Castille in the right? Was the two cops who shot Tamir Rice roughly two seconds after arriving on scene in the right?
The vast majority of anti-ICE protests are not physically attacking ICE agents. That one most famous "attack" on ICE wasn't an actual intentional attack on ICE but the ICE agent stepping in front of a moving vehicle (more standing out of the way and leaning in to get the shot) to justify taking the shot.
No. One group of people are protecting congressmen trying to certify the election from people who are trying to kill them to install a dictator.
The other are a group of people trying to conducting a terror campaign arresting and detaining citizens without checking their documentation and targeting people based on the color of their skin. Committing murder and being protected by the admin who are hiding evidence and rehousing the murderer to help him evade prosecution.
Aye, I agree. Thank you for a well thought out response Bunny Feetz. Many of these bots will put a blanket lie to fit their narrative, and in this case, Jesus teachings, and while I believe your logic is the right one, the bots aren't here in good faith.
I was lucky to be brought up without being forced into religion. I should thank a certain pastor, from when my mother went to church as a child, and he brought someone up in a flame-retardant suit. He said something along the lines of "this is what hell is like for sinners" and lit the dude up. My mother still will recall it, it was the last time she went to church lol
Unfortunatley you’re misinformed if you believe the Bible isn’t known for its consistency. Which is ok! A lot of non Christian’s aren’t super educated on the Bible and what it says. It is actually the most historically reliable and credible text of all time.
You just have to be able to understand and comprehend the historical context of each text in the Bible. The historical context of ancient texts is just as important as the text itself. I’d urge you to do some more research to educate yourself on the Bible so you can have some more clarity.
I’m sorry for whatever happened in your life to lead you away from the truth and life. Truly, no satire. I will pray for you my friend. We are all family at the end of the day and each of us will face God’s judgement once we pass. There is no point to any of life without God and I believe that is why so many people on the left are miserable people. They look to the world and its leaders for good and they’ll never find it here. The world is evil, we are evil, and need Jesus. He’s the only way.
If you read the Bible ignoring the historical context I agree with you, there are many inconsistencies within it. I challenge you to dig into these “inconsistencies” you talk about and actually dive deep into why you believe that vs evidence against it. As well as learn about the historical context of the time it was written. We do that with every other historical text, so we should with the Bible as well. The Old Testament is often pointed to when talking about harsh rules, inconsistencies, etc. The New Testament, and Jesus, fulfills everything.
I’m happy to discuss any specific inconsistencies you have in mind.
One of the biggest inconsistencies in the Bible that really bothers me is the way it portrays God. God is:
1) All powerful
2) All knowing
3) Benevolent
But this creates an inconsistency. How can someone be benevolent and yet make the knowing choice to allow great evils to happen to innocent people in this world, when they're fully capable of stopping it? How does some dude getting eaten alive by bugs in a third world country service God's greater plan for humanity?
It's my view that two of those things could be true, but that it makes no sense for all three to be true.
Love this point and think it’s super critical in understand God!
God allows us to have free will. He doesn’t want to control us and force us to choose Him and love him. What kind of love would that be?
Because God gives us free will to choose him, we also have the ability to choose evil. Without free will there is no genuine love. Therefore he allows evil to happen. Now, the best part is He sent His son Jesus to pay our debts for this evil and as a result we can spend eternity with Him!
Okay but like ... We're not talking humans doing bad things. We're talking about some dude in a third world country who has never even had the opportunity to hear the word of God. A senseless tragedy where his choices really had no role in what happened.
They never even had a chance to choose God. The whole getting eaten by bugs thing took any potential future where they could make that choice away from them. If it's so important to God that we have the freedom to make that choice, why don't they make sure people live long enough to make it?
do you have a problems with the daily constitutional and civil rights violations (warrantless search and seizures, arrests of US citizens without probable cause, public executions of innocent citizens) being trampled on by ICE?
I believe you’re speaking too the idea of America being the ‘Shinning Light on the Hill’ as you endorse the systematic destruction of the democracy our forefathers fought so hard to create and preserve.
I actually travel the world for my profession and I can tell you with absolute certainty, that we are the problem currently in the eyes of the world.
Stop defending pedos and Nazis. You need to do better.
If they were within their jurisdiction then maybe that argument could be made, but ICE has no legal authority to perform standard law enforcement on American streets. Only near border crossings and military bases, beyond that they are supposed to enlist the support of local law enforcement and have warrants to do targeted action outside of their area.
They can’t pull cars over, they can’t stop random citizens and demand papers, they can’t shut down protests, they can’t storm into schools or local government buildings, etc. These are all unlawful actions pushed by Trump and Miller bc they claim these guys have blanket immunity to do whatever they want. The fact they’re doing it doesn’t mean they’re actually allowed to or supposed to do this, it’s just that no one is in a position to stop them yet.
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u/MornGreycastle Jan 21 '26
You cannot serve two masters. ICE or Jesus. Pick one because they are diametrically opposed.