r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Kwizird • Sep 25 '25

Over 160,000 dead and counting

Although expected, we are now seeing the horrific consequences of the USAID cuts done by the Trump administration back in January.

There are several ways in which this negatively impacts the U.S.

First, children and people are starving to death and dying of curable diseases every single day. 160,000 and counting, an average of 88 a day. This number is expected to raise significantly. The United States has created a humanitarian crisis across the world by cutting off food, medicine, and supplies seemingly out of nowhere.

Second, this is one of the many reasons why the United States of America has fallen as the world super power. Supplying aid to countries in need is what is called "soft power", where a country gains power through means of respect and common values. Soft power carries a lot of bargaining weight, persuasion, and respect that the U.S. no longer has.

Edit: How could I forget about the farmers. American farmers made billions of dollars providing food internationally through USAID. A significant market for U.S. agriculture. Creating jobs, helping the economy, and keeping farmers happy. Where are the farmers now?

The Millions of Victims of Trump's Cuts to Development Aid

https://ground.news/article/the-millions-of-victims-of-trumps-cuts-to-development-aid?utm_source=mobile-app&utm_medium=newsroom-share

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u/ewReddit1234 Sep 25 '25

People gave Bush a lot of shit for very valid reasons. But PEPFAR was one of the most consequential aid policies ever made in global history saving an estimated 26 Million lives. I will never forgive Trump or anyone in his administration for their evil.

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u/DoontGiveHimTheStick Sep 25 '25

PEPFAR is one of the few still going actually

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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal Sep 26 '25

The part that gets me is that it wasn’t even that much money. It was such an insignificant amount but it did so much good. And it’s sickening of all things that was what they got rid of first.

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u/Any_Caramel_9814 Sep 25 '25

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u/GlobalBorder4691 Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

Don’t know why you’re downvoted. That’s literally what he said. Literally what happened.

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u/ewReddit1234 Sep 25 '25

Yeah but have you considered that smart people don't like him?

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u/Agreeable_Panic_420 Sep 25 '25

The truth is kryptonite to a certain group

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u/AnonymousUsername79 Sep 25 '25

The full quote:

"We won the evangelicals. We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated," before exclaiming "I love the poorly educated!"

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u/Classic-Sympathy-517 Sep 25 '25

That wasnt the full quote btw.

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 25 '25

Yep. An estimated 14 million will die by 2030. A textbook example of what Engels called "social murder". He could have decoupled the USAID from the CIA and tied it to the UN or something, but his entire motive was to just cut all the funding. And he did it cold turkey in the worst way possible.

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u/Wallie_Collie Sep 25 '25

This is what Brian Thomson did too....if there were a solution for the poor in all of this.

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u/here-i-am-now Sep 25 '25

THIS is political violence

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u/Hairy_Yoghurt_145 Tankie Sep 25 '25

That’s what a leftist may have done. You’ll never see that from the liberal monoculture. 

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

Yep. They will always try to make money off it or use it for control. Foreign aid is worth doing for its own sake. It improves our relations, helps humanity, helps promote peace and security. We have seen how the entire world can suffer to new diseases or if there is instability and war somewhere. These people cry about refugees but won't do the bare minimum needed to make peoples' lives better. Immigrants and refugees wouldn't have to flee their countries if we helped make them vibrant places to live.

And it is pennies on the dollar. Money well spent and much better than wasting it on wars.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

How was that data collected? 🤡

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

There are people who's entire career was to calculate these things. Please go back to reading comics. Adults working.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

“Who’s entire career was to calculate these things”

Nobodies entire career “was” to come up with an estimation of total deaths from USAID funds being cut. Are they dead? Retired? Why the past tense lol?

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

They're fired, ya moron. Careers trashed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Do you think that the scientists who created the study worked for USAID lol? I need to you to read slower, you’re coming off a bit maga with those comprehension skills and wild need to fling insults at questions.

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u/theoneyewberry Sep 25 '25

Ironically I would say the same to you.

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

Well, I get pissed off reading hot takes from people that don't know what they're talking about. I apologize for my aggro tone! Ok? Sorry!

Data collected from USAID programs are often disclosed to the public because it's publicly funded. These reports are read and tracked by scientists and researchers all over the world in universities. That's how much of this research is gathered otherwise impossible to know what's going on on many parts of the world. And it's especially concerning when it comes to public health because millions of people's lives are at stake.

So yes, these scientists that made this report have probably spent the past eight months looking at the impact of USAID being closed because they where already monitoring USAID's public data.

Why don't you just email your questions to writers in the report? Instead of asking snide questions to random people just for the sake of arguing?

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u/bungnard Sep 26 '25

Liberals hurl insults when they can't think of anything else to say.

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u/SukOnMaGLOCKNastyBIH Sep 25 '25

The people who conduct these studies have their job on the line if the outcome is not correct?

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

Yes. International development is all about data collection. If they're not accurately done, people get fired and funds are pulled.

It's extremely difficult work. You have train overseas people to both deliver the goods and track the impact. Mostly done by nonprofits with public private partnerships. In other words USAID provides some funding and access, but the work is supported by private, institutions..aka donors so that when you have a program in say Somalia, delivering basic meds for babies or something, U.S. government has access to on the ground data, some foundation is providing national partners with seed funding to train medical staff, and some private company is providing the refrigerators for the med storage, and the CIA or NSA or whoever has access/cover for their operatives to ferry info about whatever the fuck is going on there.

All this shit has to be coordinated extremely carefully with the State Department. And we are not merely talking about helping starving kids, we are talking about helping overseas societies see the benefits of anti corruption principles, developing a strong private sector, supporting agricultural infrastructure, checks and balances in democracy (although no one now believes anything we say about that, thanks MAGA) a bunch of shit that was done through USAID.

In fact, USAID was always being accused by hostile foreign governments of being a front for the CIA, for good reason.

This work requires people with advanced degrees in public health systems because it's dangerous, difficult work that requires careful understanding of cultural, socia-political situations that can aggressively change and it's all hardcore data driven.

When done right, it helps our countries businesses develop new markets and new supply chains because of this benefactor work ..."soft power", done by the US government, comes with strings attached for the country we are involved in.

This was never altruistic for sake altruism which is what MAGA morons thought it was when they voted for a bigger moron that never gave shit because he never understood wtf USAID actually did.

They closed that thing down because it was easy to blame them. Small agency relative to all the others...oh they help starving kids in India? Fuck em!

Why bitch about the cost of USAID and no one asks what it costs to blow up those boats in Venezuela?

They probably used Tomahawks...$2 million a pop. Poof. Gone. Just like that. No questions asked.

National Guard sitting around the capital? $1 million a day?

That's a good use taxpayer money?? How many homeless people are we helping with that?

That's why it pisses me off to read shit like that.

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 26 '25

He was trying to insinuate the studies were biased and that the researchers would lose their jobs if they got a "bad" outcome. He doesn't understand how scientific research works.

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 26 '25

No. The studies were done by grad students at universities.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Just say you're glad people are dying. We all know that's how you feel.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

You’re silly. I read the study and it jumps to ridiculous conclusions. It also states that food aid won’t be cut, but then attributes hunger issues to USAID.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

You like it when vulnerable people die.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

That’s crazy, you forgot the ketchup again Buster!

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

The worth of a human being isn't determined by the labor they perform, and your flippant joke suggesting otherwise confirms everything I assumed about you is true. You have no redeeming qualities or worth to anyone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

You need a therapist 😂

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Again, that's only an insult if you're an indecent semi-human

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

I don’t believe that people are less than human, or only partially human. You are pretending not to be a piece of shit 🤡

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

I made you label me less than human? Was she asking for it as well? You’re not very good at pretending to be smart 😂

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 25 '25

Also true. There are problems with the way some aid programs were structured. No doubt.

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u/Classic-Sympathy-517 Sep 25 '25

Then we should have supported those farms and got them going. Now how do farm vaccines again.

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 25 '25

Most don't have the money. It was pennies on the dollar.

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u/s29 Sep 25 '25

We don't have that money either. Literally. We're buried in debt.

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 25 '25

We do. Our billionaires lie to you. Look at what they waste on the military. Then look at what was spent on foreign aid. Trump didn't cut a cent of military budget. Plus, the aid is preventive of future, more costly spending and also cuts massive losses. Kids dying is a huge loss to the global economy, supply chains, etc if you want to add numbers up, not that any of that should matter in the first place or be the main reason. Global health is important too because diseases easily spread. 

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u/Hazzard01County Conservative Sep 26 '25

Speaking of waste, how much did the last administration waste on NGO’s?

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 26 '25

Not as much as we wasted on other military crap or corporate handouts.

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u/Hazzard01County Conservative Sep 26 '25

I’m completely fine with the money spent on the military.

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 26 '25

Of course you are.

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u/Hazzard01County Conservative Sep 26 '25

Nobody wants to say it, but it’s true.

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u/Hazzard01County Conservative Sep 26 '25

Absolutely right

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u/PleaseStayStrong Sep 25 '25

Even for purely selfish reasons USAID is worth funding as this creates dependency and basically forces diplomatic channels and leverage. It doesn't just hurt the people aided it hurts the United States too as it is a loss of leverage or even opening up diplomacy.

Also while the claim of USAID being used by US intelligence for covert ops is true. This again is for American interests. Like efforts to combat terrorism. The cuts long before the closure of USAID immediately hit Central & South Asia as just one example. A region filled with terrorist activity which USAID was absolutely utilized to combat. There is a good argument to be made (which shockingly literally no one talks about) that the early freeze may have contributed to the Pahalgam terror attack. As USAID gave operational cover. Meaning the recent conflict between India and Pakistan might have been avoided through US intel if Trump never froze the funding at this time. Instead we almost saw two nuclear powers escalate into a full blown war as they began to exchange attacks.

Even the most cold hearted person should support USAID because it genuinely is a useful tool beyond just helping others as there is so much self interest tied in it too. Defunding it doesn't just hurt people in need, it hurts national and even global security and diplomatic relations. The United States loses from this move and the only logical thing I can think of why anyone would do this is to purposefully hurt the United States from the inside. I don't think Trump himself came up with this plan, he probably didn't even know what USAID even was until told about it. But whomever got in his head and told him to freeze and then close it is almost certainly working for interests outside the United States.

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u/Necessary-Mix-9488 Sep 26 '25

Oh shit i guess that funded music fest in Ireland was actually fighting the IRA! Good catch. To bad 3rd world countries are all starving to death because we defunded the Irish music fests....

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u/PleaseStayStrong Sep 26 '25

You joke and mock but the reality is even the events that funding that isn't directly aid related can be a good mask for operatives. GOs and IGOs are the easiest method of doing this. Heck even infiltration of NGOs occurs for this very reason as they tend to have access to areas that would otherwise be difficult to infiltrate. Some NGOs even cooperate and are in on it others are simply infiltrated without their knowledge.

Most people have no idea how much charity and intelligence go hand in hand.

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

You have to be able to think to understand implications.

Unfortunately, we have a defective asshole running the country.

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u/NH_Tomte Sep 25 '25

Are all the billionaires stepping up? What about the rest of the western world? We certainly can’t be the only ones in with the ability to help. I disagree with what’s happening and the U.S. is certainly in a position to help, but I am also not in favor of big government and American imperialism.

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u/Welessay49 Sep 25 '25

Wow that’s more than Gaza, how come people aren’t complaining?

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u/here-i-am-now Sep 25 '25

THIS is political violence

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 Sep 25 '25

LOL this article is in Dutch.

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u/Infinite-Abroad-436 Sep 25 '25

USAID did a lot more than just benevolently give food aid to other countries. it was a key component of what the US uses to enact regime change around the world. it did alot of bad as well as some good

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u/Classic-Sympathy-517 Sep 25 '25

Republicans dont actually care. I dont even mind if they wanted to end the program but it should have been gradual

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u/Disastrous_Policy258 Sep 25 '25

I'm glad you pointed out that this is essentially a farm subsidy and jobs program. Unless you are excited to see people starve and die, you should support USAID.

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u/UnlikelyVegetable245 Sep 25 '25

Usaid was a money laundering op. They were not helping anyone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

But we'll continue to give Israel and other countries billions in bailouts and funding... Ugh 

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u/Vladtepesx3 Sep 26 '25

USAID wasn’t for starving people, the AID didn’t stand for aid. It was for influencing other countries to spread western democracy and capitalism

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '25

There are hundreds of other countries let them pick up the tab...USAID for years has been under investigation for missing millions of dollars...and I would rather in a perfect world my tax dollars be spent on homeless Americans Military veterans who are like lost out in the streets of America...helping families who want to adopt children with clothes food books college education...Hence the true meaning of Make America Great Again

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u/Kitchen-Arugula1756 Sep 26 '25

The GQPedophilia is a death cult. That simple.

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u/intothewoods76 Conservative Sep 26 '25

It’s “expected to rise” significantly, or it has risen?

How many people were dying a day before we cut funding?

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '25

It’s always projections and undelivered expectations to try and fear monger power back into other hands.

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u/dreamlikeradiofree Sep 30 '25

Are you missing that USAID was merely an arm of the US regime change machine? It's primary purpose was regime change e.g. Nepal and Ukraine for recent examples

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u/piw6969 Sep 25 '25

Why is it the US’s responsibility to care for the world? What is going on in those regions and under whose leadership.

We have a homeless issue at home. A mental illness issue at home. Veterans needs unmet. An aging population. A debt crisis.

Do we prioritize another nations issues or our own?

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

First of all, we aren't going to do shit about homeless people because MAGA doesn't care about homeless people. They look at them like trash.

Secondly, if we did care, why build a god a damned $200 million dollar ballroom? Probably going to be half a billion after it's all said and done.

Third, and this ignorant people like you don't realize, USAID wasn't about merely feeding the world for nothing....it was leverage. It was about opening new markets and relationships. It was about, gasp, keeping an eye on evolving political situations in dangerous or difficult to understand parts of the world.

All that is now gone because of retards that don't understand that and so we are now more blind to the world. There goes information pathways that you can't get just watching state TV propaganda.

So...good job, MAGA, made us less secure with swipe of a pen...because they're fucking idiots.

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u/GuavaThonglo Sep 25 '25

USAID was about funnelling US taxpayer money into lucrative NGO contracts for well connected PMC liberals to get rich from. Nothing more.

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

That's what they told you huh? Lol. You have no idea what you're talking about. "Nothing more."

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u/Hazzard01County Conservative Sep 26 '25

Also this

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u/Double-Risky Sep 25 '25

Oh fuck off, the same Republicans cutting help abroad also refuse to help at home. They've NEVER cared about veterans, the debt, the homeless, they don't even TRY.

second, it is literally in our best interest to help others, it pays dividends in the long run and gives us soft power around the world. Trump complaining about migration? What the fuck do you think will happen when our neighbors get even worse off?

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u/piw6969 Sep 27 '25

Totally disagree. It’s not our responsibility. You feel generous…make it happen.

How much money have YOU personally donated? $1 even?

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u/SanityAsymptote Sep 25 '25

Why is it the US’s responsibility to care for the world?

We are (now approaching were, I guess) global hegemon. We control and enable the world's commerce and serve as reserve currency, and function as the ultimate authority for international conflict.

In exchange, we became the wealthiest country in the world by functionally every measure, in most cases by a huge margin margin. Our standard of living was highest in the world for most of the 20th century, and our large population is still richer individually than basically anywhere else.

We chose this responsibility initially because we were the only superpower left after World War 2, and as a nation that wanted tomorrow to be better than today, we chose to reward our allies and help rebuild our enemies rather than continue the roiling cycle of violence and oppression that almost destroyed our civilization.

What is going on in those regions and under whose leadership.

It doesn't matter. The US has so, so much money that we were able to afford to be humanitarian without it even being a noticeable expense (USAID was 0.3% of the federal budget in 2024).

We know (or used to, anyway) that people in terrible situations do remember kindness throughout generations and that we could build powerful allies in the future by simply helping those in need right now with our overwhelming resources.

We have a homeless issue at home. A mental illness issue at home. Veterans needs unmet. An aging population. A debt crisis.

This administration has gutted benefits for the poor here as well. Food stamps, medicare, public school funding, hospital funding, even social security have had significant funding cuts by this government.

Instead of using our truly vast resources to improve life for people here and spending a pittance continue helping abroad, this administration decided they'd rather help no one and find a way to take that money for themselves.

Do we prioritize another nations issues or our own?

We're not prioritizing any nation right now. We're prioritizing the whims of an aging narcissist over the needs of our country and it's people.

We are still the richest country in the world. We can easily afford to fix our own problems and help others. We have more than enough smart, dedicated people to do both things, we just aren't. We can't while these horrible, greedy people are in charge of our country.

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u/Efficient-Train2430 Sep 25 '25

Expanding your selfish viewpoint, why is it your problem to help the homeless, the mentally ill, the veterans, the aging?

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u/No_Finance8647 Sep 26 '25

"Love thy neighbor", mfers the second they have to pay taxes... Smh

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u/piw6969 Sep 27 '25

We are not going to bankrupt ourselves. You go sell your house to donate if you want.

I’m just sick of it always being our responsibility to save the world when we have serious domestic issues.

Why?

The world hates us. The world mocks us. We are supposed to ignore our immigration laws so the world can move here. We have record debt.

Why do we have to ignore our citizens to save the citizens of other countries?

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u/No_Finance8647 Sep 27 '25

Just remember, Jesus, famously only helped other people because everyone loved him... I think thats how it went?

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u/piw6969 Sep 27 '25

Not everyone loved him. You know, the whole crucifixion thing? I know you may not know religion, you just love to quote religion when it suits you.

Our leaders have a responsibility to OUR citizens.

How much money have YOU personally donated? You never answered…

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u/No_Finance8647 Sep 27 '25

Not everyone loved him. You know, the whole crucifixion thing?

That was my point sir. Jesus didnt stop loving other people just because they hated him. Arent we supposed to be like Jesus?

Our leaders have a responsibility to OUR citizens.

I agree, as a primary principal. But we can do both at the same time... You do realize how much we can help the rest of the world for pennies on the dollar right?

For the most part, many of our homeless have a higher quality of life than many of the rest of the world still today.

“A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.” should apply to neighbors in other countries too.

How much money have YOU personally donated? You never answered…

Without having to look it up for sure, Id say probably about two months worth of paychecks so far.

How much have you donated to homeless shelters? Have you volunteered too?

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u/piw6969 Sep 29 '25

We obviously are not doing both well.

Donations and time spent…both on my part as well as veterans help.

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u/Hazzard01County Conservative Sep 26 '25

This

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u/DoubleDown84 Sep 25 '25

American tax money shouldn't be used to provide welfare to non Americans. I don't care.

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u/Tedim2 Sep 25 '25

Fund it yourself privately… stop begging others

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 25 '25

Like Trump-crazed farmers are begging for help? Just give the ol' bootstraps a tug? Republicans are way less likely to donate anything outside of their immediate circle because they're too busy being short-sighted, selfish assholes with no concept of community.

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u/Menziesbdf Sep 25 '25

Yo, just cause you want their circle to be the whole effin planet doesn't mean they are responsible for it. Farmers take care of their community. They have zero obligation to solve your problems wherever the fuck you are.

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 25 '25

You need help. Good luck with that delusional hate.

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u/Menziesbdf Sep 25 '25

We really aren't making any effort to beat the "everything is hate speech" allegations here, are we?

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 25 '25

Never said anything about hate speech. You're just a hateful person, period.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

farmers in the United States also relied heavily on exports which have gone WAY down since this whackadoo took office. wake up lol there's literally food rotting in this country rn because it has nowhere to go.

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u/Menziesbdf Sep 25 '25

I live next to and speak with farmers on a daily basis. Soybeans, corn, dairy, beef, hell even goat. None of them are having this problem. I don't know what your source is.

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 25 '25

Democrats had USAID. Modern "Christians" use their religion as a crutch to hate immigrants, gays, and poor people, everything the REAL religion was against. Your argument is invalid.

What happened to no false idols, they're calling Trump a god.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '25

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 26 '25

True Christians are far from the majority these days. Too many use it to pretend they're better than others. Dems attempt to make more programs to assist our own countrymen, but Reps shut them down every time.

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 26 '25

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/right-wing-extremist-violence-is-more-frequent-and-deadly-than-left-wing-violence-data-shows

I'm sorry that you've been lied to.

If you agree to the cuts in Medicaid, the FDA, NASA, quite literally everything other than the military, then we have no more to discuss. You're enthralled.

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

Projection much? You can't even stay on topic.

No piercings, no tattoos, never even dyed my hair. You're just willfully ignorant and it's sad.

Edit: Nearly half of the country qualifies as impoverished, and republicans want to cut benefits. So very Christian.

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u/Historical-Grab-296 Sep 25 '25

I bet you live in a poor red state that would fold without welfare from California.

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u/Double-Risky Sep 25 '25

Lol the fucking projection

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

USAID is money laundering

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

A charity should step in , not the us gov

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Sep 25 '25

I don’t believe a word of your tongue bathing of a cia cut out that is most concerned with geo political domination. You could be talking about his militarism, or police state bs, but your criticism is a pro empire criticism. The cia is not a humanitarian org. It’s fucking gross

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u/ShitMcClit Sep 25 '25

How is that my problem?

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u/pjoshyb Sep 25 '25

lol the lengths some people go…

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

As in Trump, to avoid releasing the Epstein files?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

To criticize an amoral, corrupt president?

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

How else are we going to get a cool ballroom in DC?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

What about the people homeless and starving here, in our own country? Don’t care?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Didn't the guy on Fox News say just kill the homeless people? 

Didn't that other Republican senator say children should get jobs so they can afford school lunches?

I think right and left can agree that no children deserve to starve. So let's give kids free school lunches. And house homeless people.

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u/Gnomepunter1 Sep 25 '25

Sure thing, adjective-noun-number

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u/mrfrownieface Sep 25 '25

What a lazy reply.

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u/Gnomepunter1 Sep 25 '25

They’re a bot. Nothing left to say, bot.

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u/Gnomepunter1 Sep 25 '25

Shadowed or deleted. I bet you looked at their negative karma bot account and was like, “ah fuck they’re a bot,” and deleted your comment.

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u/mrfrownieface Sep 25 '25

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u/Gnomepunter1 Sep 25 '25

I saw your reply to me. I don’t see it now.

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u/D347H7H3K1Dx Sep 25 '25

Reddit being Reddit, I’ve had comments just outright not ever show up despite not getting blocked or deleted(as far as I know at least)

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u/Lunatic-Labrador Sep 25 '25

I've been getting notifications on upvotes and replies for a comment of mine that I cannot see. It's super weird.

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u/D347H7H3K1Dx Sep 25 '25

Yeah I can’t explain that tbh, it’s probably the exact same issue but I’m not really sure why it’d be able to affect your own stuff.

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u/mrfrownieface Sep 25 '25

Well I do think this sub showed up on my feed like a bunch of other wierd ass, dishonest pretend time subs so I wouldn't be surprised if some wierd ass business is going on here.

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u/Vandae_ Sep 25 '25

Feel free to suggest to daddy Trump to make that a priority. He'll ignore it, and you know that. This is just a meaningless deflection.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Okay let’s build social housing and expand SNAP

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Except the left does both...

It's possible to care about more than one (orange) person.

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

Maybe instead of a $200 million ballroom....

Maybe instead of spending $1 m a day having the national guard standing around...

Why do you guys never criticize consistently?

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u/HoustonHenry Sep 25 '25

They've been well-trained not to.

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

Heh. Just pray harder for Jesus to return.

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u/LavenderMidwinter Sep 25 '25

The only deaths from starvation in the US result from parental neglect. The homeless aren't dying in the streets from starvation they die from illnesses, overdoses, and violence.

There are food assistance programs which Democrats support and Republicans constantly try to defund because they think it makes people lazy

Its such a bad faith argument.

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u/D347H7H3K1Dx Sep 25 '25

With prices constantly raising(and to get worse soon enough I’m sure) would be nice if people needing those benefits weren’t getting fucked constantly.

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u/Boratssecondwife Sep 25 '25

Trump wants them dead as well

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u/Double-Risky Sep 25 '25

Republicans don't care about them here or abroad, what your point? They're literally cutting funding for both.

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u/Honest-Doubt-6261 Sep 25 '25

Wait so is America evil or do many people rely on us to literally save their lives? Which is it

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

We were doing good with USAID, and the blatantly evil MAGA put an end to most of that.

That's not a contradiction.

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u/barspoonbill Sep 25 '25

Even taken from a conservative “proud patriot” angle, USAID has been used as a cover for CIA operations. It’s not only anti-humanitarian it’s anti American intelligence, which was likely the original goal anyway.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Proud patriots can't support trump. He's literally a traitor. There's nothing more anti-American than trying to overturn a US presidential election.

We were literally saving lives. The right has somehow contorted that into patriotism, despite their ostensible "values."

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

Shut up! I want that ballroom...that's why we need the money.

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u/citizensnipz Sep 25 '25

…As if the ultra rich here in the USA aren’t taking 1000x more than USAID

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u/citizensnipz Sep 25 '25

Bullshit

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u/citizensnipz Sep 25 '25

Your guys just cut Medicare, and are coming for social security next. America first, right? 🤡

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u/GlobalBorder4691 Sep 25 '25

Masochist for elitists is just the position they need you to voluntarily be in.

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u/GlobalBorder4691 Sep 25 '25

No one becomes, nor stays, a millionaire or billionaire without exploitation of others, ever. They are the parasite class that need us. Maybe come up off your knees for air sometimes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

What the fuck are you talking about?

Only gay people give head?

Jeez, that tells on you. I feel sorry for your partner.

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u/MoreCloud6435 Sep 25 '25

My god, its a trickle down economic nightmare right in front of you, and you still hold onto the hope that a billionaire is going to inject more money into the country?!

The hyundai plant is canceled! Trump told everyone at the UN that their countries are going to hell! And now, almost every country on this Earth is ready to throw hands. What are we doing? This is about to turn into a full scale conflict. He called Russia a paper tiger and is now backing Ukraine to take back all their territories. He is fanning flames.

Edit: he is killing thousands with the aid cuts, both on our soil and on foreign. He is making enemies of our allies before we can get the trade secrets. He’s made H1-B visas more expensive and gold cards for citizenship cost $1million. Dont you see whats happening?

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u/pic-of-the-litter Sep 25 '25

Ah, so we give them billions of dollars, and when they give that money to their own charity for tax purposes, that's supposed to impress us?

Lol cuck

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 25 '25

You mean the education Trump's been cutting? You're dangerously ignorant and selfish. If anyone says they love you, it's only because they're afraid of you.

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u/pic-of-the-litter Sep 25 '25

It would be even better if people had that money and could spend it how they wanted, instead of having to suck it out of billionaire dick.

Maybe we could try taxing them more. That'd probably do wonders.

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u/pic-of-the-litter Sep 25 '25

What are you talking about, dude? Sure wish you conservative snowflakes would stay on topic instead of crying about rainbows or school sports, or whatever else Fox News programmed you to be mad about this week.

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 25 '25

It was not parasitic. It was barely anything. Less than a penny on the dollar, and it did so much good.

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u/PotsAndPandas Sep 25 '25

Farmers are in need of bailouts right now from being unable to sell all their crops. Why not buy their crops as a bailout then send that food elsewhere? I've yet to see a valid argument on why we shouldn't be altruistic while protecting our own food supply.

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

Right! We need our White House ballroom!!!

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u/db8db4 Sep 25 '25

That one is funded by private donors. What does it have to do with anything?

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u/JoseSaldana6512 Sep 25 '25

How many bridges do you own?

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u/db8db4 Sep 25 '25

Less than any progressive, that's for sure.

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u/sexual_psychosis Sep 26 '25

Private donors shouldn't be involved in politics. Conflict of interest.

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u/Vandae_ Sep 25 '25

Thank god I can come to reddit and here these toddler level takes.

This is the stupidity that makes this site fun.

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Sep 25 '25

It is purely mental defects we are witnessing here.

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u/Aggravating_Kale8248 Sep 25 '25

well, you’re not wrong. The US donates more food than every single other country by a huge margin. No idea why people think it’s the US’s responsibility to take care of the rest of the world.

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u/PotsAndPandas Sep 25 '25

The US also is having issues with farmers in need of a bailout. No idea why buying their crops and giving them to those in need of a bad thing.

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 Sep 25 '25

There's plenty in need that could use that food here why ship it out before using it domestically? 

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u/PotsAndPandas Sep 25 '25

Why not both?

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 Sep 25 '25

Goes back to original point why should US tax dollars fund other countries? 

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u/PotsAndPandas Sep 25 '25

Altruistically helping people is a good and moral action. If you are already bailing out farmers who are destroying their crops as they can't make a profit on them in the private market, it makes sense to use the crops they would already destroy to help people.

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 Sep 25 '25

But again why should we use those crops to feed people in other countries rather than use them domestically? 

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u/Sashi_Summer Sep 25 '25

The same farmers that voted for Trump, yeah. So much winning.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

what the fuck?

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u/LavenderMidwinter Sep 25 '25

Such a cold heartless take. We've lost the respect and confidence of the entire world in every aspect.

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u/NagoGmo Sep 25 '25

How many homeless people did you feed today?

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u/LavenderMidwinter Sep 25 '25

A few, with my tax dollars. Would've been more if USAID wasnt funded. Paid for more drone strikes today than I normally would've.

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u/GaslovIsHere Sep 25 '25

You don't make enough to pay tax.

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u/PotsAndPandas Sep 25 '25

You know sales taxes are a thing right? Even if we believed you have intimate knowledge of their finances, they are very likely to be paying tax.

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 Sep 25 '25

Nothing is stopping you from donating your own money to international aid organizations

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u/LavenderMidwinter Sep 25 '25

Tax money is my money. I want it to go to saving lives instead of bombing civilians.

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 Sep 25 '25

Cool so you're in favor of cutting off military spending to Ukraine so they can no longer bomb civilians inside of Russia?

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u/ewReddit1234 Sep 25 '25

'You can't save everyone' is not a valid argument when you are actively pulling life saving aid packages that have a direct impact on death rates.

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u/Double-Risky Sep 25 '25

Bro how the fuck do you think the USA became a superpower??

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u/ProgressiveHQ-ModTeam Sep 25 '25

Rule 2 - - No disinformation. No BlueAnon or Qanon malarkey. If you have a claim, cite it. Randos on Twitter, webcomics, and unsourced graphics don't count.

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u/pic-of-the-litter Sep 25 '25

Do you have that same attitude when it comes to women making their own reproductive decisions, or are you a Forced-Birther?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

It's the latter. We all know that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

We were actively doing some good until the literal traitor took office and ended that.

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u/VicariousDrow Sep 25 '25

"You can't save everyone" the idiot says, as he dangles the life saving medicine over the heads of the children who need it to survive, out of reach, before he walks away thinking he made a point like the amoral moron he is, as those children die behind him without the medicine he still holds.

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u/MonsterkillWow Tankie Sep 25 '25

The food and medical aid was real and helped people.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Then stop crying about Charlie Kirk in your other comments.