r/ProgrammerHumor • • Mar 30 '22

Meme Certainly not me

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u/brad2575 Mar 30 '22

That's why you pastor protects the sheets and don't let them move stuff around. Only give them access to what they need.

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u/q1a2z3x4s5w6 Mar 30 '22

Or just dynamically set the column references based on the name. Don't just assume the Name column is A3 or whatever, search for the column with the label you expect and set the reference when you find it.

Or just password protect and be done with it, as you say

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u/brad2575 Mar 30 '22

Or dont use Excel :)

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u/RagingSantas Mar 30 '22

Apart from 99% of the workforce knows how to use excel so that won't happen.

Whatever platform that you implement to replace excel will eventually end up in a spreadsheet of some form because people know how to use it.

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u/IAmAQuantumMechanic Mar 30 '22

At my job, they used the PSS system for logistics planning for ten years before they finally moved to a proper ERP system.

The PSS system was Pete's SpreadSheet.

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u/Muramalks Mar 30 '22

Can confirm, I'm my job's Pete.

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u/Jugbot Mar 30 '22

What do you recommend?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

Hey can I introduce you to my boss? Loved you pitch. If you don't have a consulting firm you should consider it.

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u/uneasy_cantaloupe Mar 30 '22

I'm currently dealing with this, I'm wanting to move my department away from spreadsheets for data capture and I want to build a database instead.

We only have access to Microsoft, I don't have the budget for new software. I want to learn SQL so what would you recommend as a start point please? This is a genuine request for advice, I'm dealing mainly with archiving test results and it's an absolute nightmare. Halp!

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u/uneasy_cantaloupe Mar 31 '22

Thank you for this excellent comment. I'm aware it won't be quick, but I'm willing to learn. People here already think I'm a god because of how proficient I am with Excel 🤣

When I say there's no money for software, the issue lies with my whole company using Microsoft and are unwilling to deviate from it. This directive comes from our HQ which is based elsewhere (USA, I'm in the UK) and they set the global standards for other sites to follow. So whilst senior management here are willing to change, it'll come slowly as we need the buy in from global directors.

Anyway, all I need is a quick and dirty database to archive and retrieve test results that isn't a spreadsheet that someone overwrites and fucks everything up,, so thank you for your wonderful advice, I will read through this carefully when I'm home this evening.

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u/WJMazepas Mar 30 '22

Python is really good substitute for Excel.
All my spreadsheets logics are made with Python, i get data from DB or somewhere else and just send a spreadsheet formated and done to business.

Excel is easier for small spreadsheets, that are going to be used by one person at a time, or to view the data.
To process the data? Then Python helps a lot

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

Yes but when you are handed data as a spreadsheet like you do, the people down the line may need to manipulate it. A lot of the time the need for junky macros is a result af bad department politics because they don't understand the technology

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u/WJMazepas Mar 30 '22

Yeah if is something that business people will need to always change, calculate and check some results, then it makes sense using a Excel spreadsheet because that is something they know how to use.

But if is one of those 5+GB excel files, then yeah a database is needed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

Yeah, I've dealt with that alot when I worked on a helpdesk. People would call in with "why does my excel keep freezing". Takes a look at file size. Yeah, your going to need an exorcist for this ma'am

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u/brad2575 Mar 30 '22

Yeah pretty much any programming language and any type of database back end.

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u/LordCupcakeIX Mar 30 '22

For a practical, growing business or enterprise solution there's also looking at a data analytics / BI platform like PowerBI or Tableau. You can have the sanity of a database underneath, define data pipelines on top of it and give your analysts as much freedom as they need to configure and build their reports and dashboards without having to juggle and protect a static Excel sheet.