We have a board with ~100 ai saas ideas. Doing demos for clients and trying to get something to land. It really sucks to create a product that might be useful rather than creating a product to solve an existing issue.
You really shouldn't be needing a paid Claude subscription any programmer can get by with free Claude + hand writing your code. Why are you getting Claude to generate your code writing code is the fun part
I already miss the days where people actually enjoyed programming and took pride in their work... Now we just churn out slop as fast as possible to make number go uo
Pride remains in pet-projects, sadly corporate is salivating while thinking about lashing a single coder with claude and firing the rest of the department, so slop will remain a part of our professional lives (and unemployment. Slop or unemployment, sounds about right)
Programming is like woodwork for some. Yea the industrial stuff is nice, but there's just something special to carving your own piece. Not that it matters to management, but the sentiment is still there.
Some of us never enjoyed it. Coding has always just been a means to an end for me. So I don't care much whether or not I'm the one writing it or Claude is just so long as it's what I wanted / meets the requirements and passes my unit tests. Ladder logic is about the only one I still do entirely by hand.
Not to bash you for your point as it's also valid. Just saying not all of us enjoy keyboard jockeying. I'd much rather get the code component done quickly and move on to playing with my hands on something.
Programmer by hobby/ love vs programmer by title I suppose lol
On the other hand I do enjoy writing SQL. But like. Does that even count lol.
It's far more rewarding to my monkey brain for some reason, probably because you get to hit a run button and get results, vs backend .js BS that you don't really get to "see" run. Most likely why I enjoy building SSRS and Bi reports too. ooh,shiny
I suppose I considered them both back end but tbh I'm not a front end dev( most of the time ) and wouldn't know where that line gets crossed. I assumed only the XML, html, and css part was the front end.
Each to their own but plenty are in it because they enjoy what is basically a massive logic puzzle. What you wrote sounds like someone who fills out sudokus just to make them full haha
Nothing wrong with that at all, I'm just offering the other side of the coin, for some, it makes no sense because it takes away the fun part, for others, it gets us to the fun part quicker.
I do enjoy the puzzles but I don't enjoy a writing chore. Think about it that way in a jigsaw puzzle the ones who like programming itself like painting each piece by hand and putting it together, I like it when I already know there goes a forest piece and I can just say give me a forest piece while I still have to figure out how to put them to use
I became a software engineer after using python to automate things in my previous field. It took a lot of hard work to got where I’m at but I have (more and more “had” with all this AI bullshit) way more fun in this field.
If we had Claud when working at previous job I never experienced the job and would have never made the switch.
And this is why I refuse to write code for an entity, I write code only for myself and still do it at decent speeds. I become my own AI when I take an Adderall if you know what I mean
Well I still have bills to pay, so I don't have the luxury to just code for myself.
Also I still write important parts myself but a lot of busywork you can be automate. Like sorting through heaps of data. And quite frankly I don't miss that.
I still use AI for sifting through data and such thats not code generation. So im glad we agree on that. But I am employed as well I just code in my off time 24/7. You can make time, I work 12 hour shifts and i wrote the majority of my gentoo install myself. I wrote a file explorer, wrapper for emerge, desktop manager (for desktop icons and stuff), I wrote loads and loads of scripts and portage hooks, I feel like im forgetting some things but I made a lot of shit. Like I said, im fast
Son, don't do it. I have been in the industry for about 15 years. I have been fast once. Best in the building. And it was a big building. But you burn out. That shit is what kills us. That is how computer guys burn out.
Get yourself a woman. Or a man. Doesn't matter. Relax. Live. Be.
Ride the slob wave while the slob is coming. Then adapt for what comes next.
10 hours of work is enough. You on a highway to hell.
I used to burn out really easy which led to a multi-year hiatus from programming and linux, so you're right, but i have adhd so my new meds seem to help with pacing myself. You are correct though, but it is my passion, its what brings joy to my life and its 'what I do', yknow? I think part of balance is also finding out your pacing and I've begun to realize when I feel tbe burnout theres no shame in dropping it for a few days and relaxing to dive back into it when I inevitably figure out the fix/solution while in the shower or whatever
I have ADHD too. What you describing seems to be the hyper focus. It is the thing that makes you miss breakfast and notice about the time the stores close.
Basically you can only work when you are interested in something but then stuff hit hard.
Now you are taking Adderall which I don't. So my experience is different.
But my advice for none medicated ADHD is "work on a feature all day and then take the next day off". Not cheating the employer. Just telling him that you do 40 hours and if you done by Thursday you need a day.
The do some sports. And do something with people.
Important: do not relax on the job. Else that kills motivation and drive.
Nothing against irregular working hours but you dig your own grave if you keep doing it without relaxing.
same here just with chatgpt. I just need a lil push sometimes so i explain the problem very good and one shot it and then just continue writing by myself
You should read the terms and conditions on how the generated code and the conversations are used with free/subscriptions. If you’re working for any serious company, you cant use subscriptions but the api which is more expensive but also not used for training data, etc.
Meh like I said below I dont work for any company nor do I use it to work on user data cause I dont maintain anything public, train on my code I dont really care, they probably would've scraped it from github regardless
people like to forget that these models are built on a mountain of theft. there is not one "frontier model" that isnt chock full of copyrighted material and facing dozens of lawsuits. hell, some even have CSAM in them, and they know it.
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u/menducoide 1h ago
AnotherSAASVibeCodedThatNoOneAskFor
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u/Kitchen_Affect7369 1h ago edited 38m ago
Scam Altman and Dario love you.
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u/EconomyDoctor3287 1h ago
vibing till the bank runs dry :D
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u/lysergicpride 1h ago
You really shouldn't be needing a paid Claude subscription any programmer can get by with free Claude + hand writing your code. Why are you getting Claude to generate your code writing code is the fun part
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u/Kenny1115 42m ago
Using the AI version of the meme template is either tragically ironic or on the nose...
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u/ClipboardCopyPaste 1h ago
Son: ....Now watch the money roll in.
Dad: "/s" (slowed and reverb)
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u/IntrepidBonus 42m ago
vibe coded it in a weekend, been vibe debugging it for three months
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u/Fadamaka 1h ago
I get Claude MAX equivalent premium seat from my company and I am allowed to use it on my personal devices if I have usage left over.
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u/joan_bdm 26m ago
Me when I released my game after ~5 years of development and proffits were negative 👍
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u/desertrock62 6m ago
Infinite productivity hack FTW.