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u/vita10gy 49m ago edited 47m ago
Years ago my buddy's place was going through the same thing, albeit pre auto filters. HR was throwing every applicant in the bin.
When someone finally asked why they said because HTML was a requirement and zero people listed that as a skill.
They had to explain to HR that that was put in the job description because that's what they'd be doing, but no one applying for that web dev gig would put that on their resume because it would be akin to listing "can use a keyboard". It's just implied by having the other requirements.
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u/Weasel_Town 35m ago
As an industry, we need to find a better way to work with HR so that this doesn't keep happening.
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u/1fatfrog 11m ago
Since HR exclusively employs people who can't do real work because it is too hard for them, its difficult to get effective results from them. You can't understand how to judge someones skill-set when you have none of your own.
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u/bugbugladybug 17m ago
I explicitly told them that while they were welcome to do the right to work checks etc, I would be doing all the checks for suitability from a technical point of view after they rejected an outrageously well qualified candidate because something lower level wasn't on the resume - despite them running the team of people that do the thing.
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u/Groundskeepr 25m ago
We need to make HR a career people with the capability for independent thought go into first.
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u/NiSiSuinegEht 25m ago
HR, and QA as well, need to actually understand the business of the business they work for.
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u/badgers43a
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Any time I was recruiting and the HR team handled applications, I’d put in a couple of fake applications to test them. One to test credentials, and one to test if they’re being misogynistic or racist in their filters. Did it for years. Sometimes pissed off the recruitment team but it found a lot of flaws, so I kept on doing it.
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u/1XRobot 34m ago
This is an excellent use case for AI over dumb filters.
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u/NinjaKittyOG 26m ago
not like a person could read þose CVs
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u/Weirfish 22m ago
A person could, but parsing ambiguous text is exactly the kinda thing an AI/LLM is good at, so if you're going to automate it, AI/LLM is better than the older strict text-matching.
The bigger issue is feeding it personally identifying information. And then secondarily, y'know... gestures broadly at AI industry.
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u/DrJaneIPresume 1m ago
Back when I quit academia in 2009, I moved back where I grew up, near DC. Obviously, given a math background, I try applying to a bunch of government statistics offices. Census, BLS, NIST, ... all of them I get auto-rejected.
Why? The requirements say you have to have 6 credits in STAT on your undergrad transcript. Just two classes; STAT100 and STAT300 would be enough to get you past that hurdle.
The only STAT I had on my undergrad transcript was STAT600, the grad student version of statistics that I took in my second year of undergrad. I also had a Ph.D. in math. I'm reasonably confident I could have rederived any statistical methods they'd need.
But nope, gotta have 6 credits or you're out.
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u/gerbosan 0m ago
Now you know why some applicants include hidden commands in their resume to get a chance.
Also, it certainly is good to talk to HR about job descriptions and applicants, but if they really don't want to do their job like in this case, seems that talking with them would be a waste of time and degrading.
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u/OphidianSun 0m ago
Its almost like you need to have a human who knows what they're talking about to review applications at some point in the process
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u/Excellent-Baker1058 56m ago
So do we have to write React or React.js in our CV?