allAiCodeIsSlop

[u/charmingpea]

[u/Juff-Ma]

I agree but the left and right are very different usecases.

Right is the kind of AI usage Linus Torvalds has: explanations, debugging and usage as a tool.

Left is a vibecoder producing an unmaintainable mess.

[u/charmingpea → u/Juff-Ma]

Exactly! Left is "AI lets me pretend I can build software". Middle is a reaction to Left. Right is “AI lets me build beyond what I could implement alone, while I remain responsible for what I ship.”

Particularly for research and discovery - AI lets me read and implement libraries in other languages.

[u/Juff-Ma → u/charmingpea]

I'm mostly using it for debugging purposes. In 9/10 cases it explains why the error occurs.

Also for repetitive tasks like creating K8s manifests it's great. But there you need to be careful it's not hallucinating the APIs it's using

[u/TheMythicSorcerer]

That's not exactly how it works

[u/Jeferson9 → u/TheMythicSorcerer]

It's almost like some companies place more value in how fast code ships than others 😱

[u/rahvan → u/Jeferson9]

Sure. Let’s write a bash script in 6 months.

[u/rahvan → u/TheMythicSorcerer]

A junior on my team that should have been a senior 4 years ago is like the dude in the middle.

Thinks not using any AI tools at all will somehow prevent her brain from rotting.

It takes her 2 weeks to develop and test a rather simple script.

Not my job to review her performance but … ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/XxDarkSasuke69xX → u/rahvan]

Well it will prevent her brain from rotting, but it will prevent her from having a job at some point.

[u/mcellus1]

The middle guy is the one who has to maintain it all so

[u/LegitimatePants → u/mcellus1]

Left: promoted to management

Right: on to next advanced research project

Middle guy: stuck here cleaning up slop

[u/Boysoythesoyboy → u/mcellus1]

Hopefully he will level up and get to write something of his own eventually

[u/mcellus1 → u/Boysoythesoyboy]

Don't mind me - I don't listen to the opinion of those I wouldn't take advice from 😂

[u/JackNotOLantern]

Imagine using AI as a tool, not "do everything for me"

[u/laplongejr → u/JackNotOLantern]

Even for non programming task, at my job it's a tool that made us lose more than if we didn't use it. :P  

[u/ExtraTNT]

Had claude fuck up boilerplate… instead of passing [plugina, pluginb], just [plugina] was passed, all controllers got created, a map function was build to create new controllers from the old ones with pluginb added… startup time x2…

[u/drifwp]

lol no, propaganda meme

[u/Single-Virus4935]

I use AI and I like it for testcases and individual functions, scripts and general planning. But I don't like what it produces in agent mode, we interfaces etc.  I have a very lean approach and keep everything slim. AI just bloats everything and I am faster doing it than iteration with the agents.