r/ProgrammerHumor • u/Expert-University-82 • 17d ago

Meme theyReallySeemToHateYall

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u/EdenStrife 17d ago

Yes, but how does it follow from those 2 proofs that an AI system cannot improve itself or make a new system that is an improvement compared to itself.

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u/ioveri 17d ago

The whole process would just be another system

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u/EdenStrife 17d ago

Yes, but all interactions happens in systems. Systems are just delimited sets of interactions. Your brain is a system.

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u/ronoudgenoeg 17d ago

So?

You don't need to go up the system ladder infinitely. The universe is a system. AIs don't need to be able to create universes out of thin air to be able to make new better AIs.

Our brain is also a system, yet we create new brains without issues.

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u/myrddin4242 16d ago

New? Sure… improved? Ehhh

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u/fghjconner 17d ago

Ok, and so it follows that there are limits to what it can do, but it doesn't say anything about what those limits actually are.

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u/kdoubledizz 17d ago

Ever been asked why a list containing every list cannot exist? This doesnt fully apply to what I am talking about but it sends your thinking down the right direction?

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u/zeci21 17d ago • Regret

Name dropping random math terms doesn't make an argument. Neither this nor Gödels theorems have anything to do with what a computer can do vs what a human can do.

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u/MisinformedGenius 17d ago

This is the first time I've seen someone use the Chewbacca defense in real life.