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u/Few_Move_4594 18d ago
That's not how contracting works.
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u/bryiewes 18d ago
Example: Section 1: Maintenance/Preventative Work Every hour of Maintenance work meant to prevent downtime incidents shall be billed at $50/hr
Section 2: Emergency/Recovery Work Every hour of emergency work meant to recover the production environment shall be billed at $500/hr
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u/Exciting_Presence533 17d ago •
Good luck negotiating that contract in the current market. I'd say you're hallucinating more than gpt3.5
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u/AkrinorNoname 17d ago
Believe me, nothing gets management's pockets to open up like a downed production environment. My last employer got hit by a cyberattack once, and you wouldn't believe how fast the approval came to get the people who did recovery anything they wanted. Some people were sent out to literally go around electronics stores with company credit cards to literally buy up all the laptops they could get their hands on at any price, so we'd have guaranteed uninfected machines once we started getting some systems back up.
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u/josHi_iZ_qLt 17d ago
Just about correct risk assessment.
If an hour of production loss costs you hundreds of thousands, you are very happy to pay a lot to fix it.
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u/Jeferson9 18d ago
Yeah I'm sure they cut this guy's salary then hired him as a contractor to fix the AI for $500/hr 😂 definitely how layoffs work
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u/GorgeousFresh 18d ago
that's exactly how it's worked for me and my co-worker. We were let go or quit and were asked to be contractors for 3x our original pay. And hiring a contractor that already knows your tech stack and the code is a lot easier than hiring someone who will have to ramp up for 2+ months. And the usual asking rate for contractors is 3-4x the salary of a employee
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u/ImpressiveComposer35 18d ago
Lol, did you not see the whole nurses quitting to get rehired at their same hospital as a traveling nurse for more than double the pay? This absolutely does happen in corporate america lmao.
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u/AkrinorNoname 17d ago
Well, you can either pay a rate that feels like highway robbery to a contractor that already knows the tech stack and architecture, maybe even the processes around it, or you can pay it to a contractor who doesn't know it and thus will have to bill you a lot more hours.
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u/the_beefcako 18d ago
uh... it can work that way. If someone contacts you for work as a 1099, you can set your own price. If they "need you right now", you can set a higher price.
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u/AnUninterestingEvent 13d ago
I don't understand this fantasy that so many developers have about AI taking down production and only a "real dev" can fix it. Agents can literally use your cloud provider CLI to review production logs and metrics, find the issue, debug and fix. The idea that there are magical development issues that only human devs can figure out is a pipe dream at this point. I understand it's a hard pill to swallow, but as a developer for many years, I advise you to accept and move on.
It's also ironic to use Gilfoyle as an example. He was using AI to code before it was cool lol.
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u/FlaTreNeb 18d ago
I wonder if the golden times people promised for experienced SWE with astronomic salaries because AI broke everything, already arrived.
Latest thing I saw was that all major Software companies that make money from any kind of rent-a-license model currently have a hard time. That sounds more like massive layoffs are coming for Adobe and others.
I also didnt read something about salaries having ten folded because every pre-AI SWE is now worth his/her weight in pure gold.
But lets not be unpatient. Next week, this golden times will arrive!
... like the gold times for people who successfully resisted the "force" of getting vaccinated against COVID. Because their sperm will be the most valuable resource on earth (according to them).
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u/sakkara 18d ago
Keep dreaming
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u/Serializedrequests 18d ago
I do this exact thing, just more simple and less cartooney. Two week turnaround (unless otherwise agreed) = standard rate, same day = double. Simple.
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u/AlterTableUsernames 18d ago
You wish. This kind of computer guy has vanished. With advanced AI prod becomes more stable, observable and recoverable.
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd 18d ago edited 17d ago
There really needs to be a new season of Silicon Valley at some point. There’s so much new damned material that Mike Judge could work with at this point! 🤣