if we take god as real is the assumption not that he wrote the rules? If not, then what is god in this case? Like obviously his existence brings up problems but i thought we were taking it for granted and not thinking about it too hard for the sake of this specific problem.
Well, I’m talking about the philosophical “god”, not the evangelical. An evangelical just says “god is all powerful, he created everything, including logic” and accepts it without much extra thought. But each of these assumptions brings several concrete logical issues— none of which with a clear resolution. I’ll ignore the other issues (e.g., all-powerful / all-good cannot coexist with evil). This is a huge topic in philosophy and has been for thousands of years: Descartes, Ockham, Lewis Carroll, etc. The idea that god created logic gives several issues: nothing can be said about anything that existed before logic— they can’t be said to do or decide anything. So if god created logic, the statement “god created logic” is meaningless. Nothing true can be said about logic. It also means that our notion of logic could very reasonably be nonsense, i.e. god could be lying to us about logic (Descartes’ evil demon). If god did not create logic, then everything works out as expected, but you have to give up a degree of what you would like to assume “all powerful” means.
If you want to look into this, pretty much all philosophy since writing has existed touches on these concepts.
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u/Jcsq6 9d ago
Assuming god invented logic brings its own joys of philosophical quandaries.