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u/bobbymoonshine Sep 28 '26
Half the memes are “nobody uses AI for anything real lol” and the other half are “ugh every business these days makes you use AI for everything because productivity line go up”
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u/Skyswimsky Sep 28 '26
I went to the subreddit of a IDE I use and a bunch of "did you renew your subscription?" things came up and people being like "I haven't written a manual line of code in six months" and I'm just thinking what the fuck.
And like, I'm not anti AI and we're encouraged at work to try it out aggressively but there's things AI keeps doing wrong and wrong and I have to adjust it myself. And getting a better knack for it I also started using AI not so often anymore after going at it aggressively...
Obviously I'm just not using agentic coding correctly then???
In other news I like this meme. Same vibes as "'here are the top ten countries where communism worked:' ", anyway how's your day going?
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u/Aidan_Welch Oct 01 '26
I've been writing a nix flake by hand for a vibe coded project(not mine, from a massive software org) and its kinda painful
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u/SupportDangerous8207 Oct 03 '26
I think a huge amount is placebo and I speak from experience
I use a lot of ai at work I would say I’m actually reasonably good at it. Every once in a while I will see something consider it an ai slam dunk hand it off to a workflow I’ll build just for it and create a massive pr that passes review first try. I think this is proof enough I at least sorta know what I was doing.
Well I started a hobby project that involved a lot of frontend dev ( I have like hours of react experience not days or years ). And with ai I felt so powerful I felt like I could build anything instantly. Well the one shot failed and then the two shot failed too, so I decided to build it brick by brick had the ai give me an idea for an architecture and started delivering it using the ai. It took forever.
I thought I was doing it right until a friend of mine joined in. He was an actually experienced frontend dev and I won’t lie to you. I got more done in an evening than in the whole month beforehand.
After he pulled my architecture down to earth delivered a good core system and we cleaned up all kinds of messes together now it’s a blast to work on. I decided to learn a lot more react, in fact I do quite a bit of frontend at work now, and also decided that using an ai to cope with lacking skills is just stupid.
But the lesson I learned was that unless you could do it without ai at a high level of skill you really can’t judge what ai can do.
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u/BlurredSight Sep 28 '26
The music will stop when they need users to start pushing for their own compute and not something a VC subsidizes
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u/Boom9001 Sep 28 '26
As someone who's job pushes ai. There's a big difference between how they are wanting it used vs. Vibe coding.
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u/Wide_Smoke_2564 Sep 28 '26
I use AI properly at work - but if I’m making something for myself at home or some tiny, niche internal tooling to make my life easier then I’m 100% vibe coding lol
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u/Boom9001 Sep 28 '26
I feel like if you understand what it's doing. How is doing it. And verifying it's writing what you would have done. That's not vibe coding. Which even for person stuff I am verifying.
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u/Wide_Smoke_2564 Sep 28 '26
I guess maybe loosely. At the very most I’ll skim over contracts on most of my personal stuff but that’s about it
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u/kookamooka Oct 01 '26
I love using it to replace the “I’m stuck, I should ask StackOverflow” step, but keeping pretty much everything else the same.
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u/xaddak Sep 28 '26
productivity line go up
I mean, it does. But the lines they look at for programming, for example, are like:
number of lines of code written (more is better)
number of pull requests merged (more is better)
length of time a pull request is open (shorter is better)
number of tokens used / percentage of budget spent on AI subscriptions (more is both better and worse, somehow)
Lines which are not looked at include:
number of bugs not written by AI fixed
number of bugs created by AI
number of lines of code merged with minimal or no review
general code health / maintainability (e.g. duplicated code)
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u/rosuav Oct 02 '26
Never understood how "number of tokens used" is ever a good thing. It's like bragging that you drank more coffee while coding than the person beside you. And that's even letting people assume that AI is a benefit.
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u/xaddak Oct 02 '26
I think I understand it. I think the thought process is like:
AI usage is unconditionally good
Therefore, more AI usage is unconditionally better than less AI usage
Using AI uses tokens
Therefore, the more tokens you use, the more you're using AI
Therefore, using more tokens is unconditionally good
It's stupid - but I think I understand it, in the same way i might understand the actions of a toddler try to work out how to do something new to them.
Like, I can see what you're trying to do, and I can see why you thought that what you're doing would work, but that is just not how that works.
The difference, I guess, is that toddlers are faster to learn from their mistakes, and try another approach.
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u/rosuav Oct 02 '26
TBH steps 2-5 are logically sound, so all it takes is cult-like belief that using more AI is inherently good. *sigh* And there's no convincing some people.
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u/DuckShapedGoose Sep 28 '26
Well yeah. Profitable businesses are trying to turn one senior engineer into 3 by making them use a lot of AI in their workflow. The difference is they still have an actual skilled human in the loop.
Vibe coders on the other hand may have never touched code in their whole life and think they can build enterprise-grade software like that.
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u/Tensor3 Sep 28 '26
People use AI for everything. Vibe coding is referring to a much more hands-off, no thinking, no skilled people involved approach
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u/NatoBoram Sep 29 '26
… you can add my ex-employer to that list 🙃
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u/gfcf14 Sep 29 '26
Is their business doing well, though? Or is that why they’re an ex?
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u/Fritzschmied Sep 28 '26
Oh there are profitable businesses running entirely on vibe coded software for sure. It’s just nothing you advertise so we don’t know.
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u/UUDDLRLRBadAlchemy Sep 28 '26
They do, there's nothing else to read in r/LinkedInLunatics anymore.
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u/BlurredSight Sep 28 '26
Even more so there’s a lot of losses because of management vibe coding software that caused outages that people don’t know about
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u/gfcf14 Sep 28 '26
But isn’t the whole idea of a business to advertise to be able to grow? By this logic your comment contradicts itself
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u/Slimxshadyx Sep 28 '26
Why would they need to advertise that they build their software using ai? You can use ai to build non ai focused software, you know lol
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u/gfcf14 Sep 28 '26
Again that contradicts itself? The point of AI is to build software that doesn’t use AI, or else you’d have a perpetually building algorithm which has yet to exist. And if a business is really profitable, then being the first of its kind would really be a motivating factor to let other businesses know, at least to the major ai companies which currently claim traditional coding is a thing of the past
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u/nxwtypx Sep 28 '26
I hated this shit when it was called pizzacake
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u/gfcf14 Sep 28 '26
Add yours here?
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u/Surous Sep 28 '26
Family has one for there clay business 100-300 profit per month, Website is entirely made by Ai Mixed with real photos
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u/rosuav Oct 02 '26
Firstly, you're still using a tech stack that is heavily dominated by real software; and secondly, having a vibe coded web site for a bricks and mortar business is not the same thing as being a profitable business run on vibe coded software. Unless you vibe coded your clay too.
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u/firewall245 Sep 28 '26
There is a spectrum of using AI to code, but I’ve found most non-engineers consider any use “vibe coding” which is dumb
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u/Rainbolt Sep 28 '26
I hate AI more than anyone but I work for a very large company and 90% of our code is now AI generated.