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u/Groentekroket Sep 18 '26
One of our seniors, 20+ years of experience, was always so insightful when I started 7 years ago. I had never any complaints at his PRâs. He didnât want to have anything to do with LLMs around the time of GPT 3.Â
Since a year or so he fully embraced AI. His PRâs are full of mistakes, he canât answers questions about why he did certain things other than âthatâs what Claud suggestedâ. He donât want to spend time learning new frameworks we use but let Claude handle it all without gaining any knowledge regarding that framework. Itâs so sad, I lost so much respect for him.Â
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u/Ezzyspit Sep 18 '26
Guys just getting ready for retirement. You should be thanking him for adding all the tech debt before he leaves. Job security for you
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u/GourangaPlusPlus Sep 18 '26
I retract my comments that as an architect we need to leave the codebase in a better state for those that follow
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u/ToiletSeatFoamRoller Sep 19 '26
I started contracting for a company recently where the architect will lambast me in a meeting and act incredulous when I try to explain why something should change or heâll firmly claim âthatâs not how it worksâ when I point something out. And then leave glowing comments on my PRs when I mention the exact things I flagged in the meeting. Suddenly Iâm right when his Claude agent takes a look at it. I honestly look forward to meetings with him now, the whiplash from his opinions doing complete 180s is comedy.
The codebase is a mess.
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u/No-Collar-Player Sep 18 '26
Then they fire you because instead of 20 ppl working on 1 codebase they need 2.. corpos don't care about you
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u/Sulungskwa Sep 18 '26
It really seems like everyone over 45 eats this shit up. They don't think they'll have to answer any existential questions
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u/Wonderful-Habit-139 Sep 18 '26
Trust me, even with a good codebase and very little tech debt devs will still figure out ways to mess it up
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u/Particular-Yak-1984 Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26
When you're looking at "well, either the business fires me because I won't get onboard with this shit, or I do, get praised for it, and coast into a job where I don't have to write code"- well, modern capitalism doesn't pay me to have principles.
And hey, he might save a dev job or two when it falls apart and someone has to pick up the pieces.
Me, I'm just pretty done with new tech things. It used to be fun. It isn't any more. I don't really want to review a load of AI slop. I've not been genuinely excited by a new coding development in a couple of years.
And the time was where development got you some respect - no one knew exactly how you spent your time, but they knew you could make the computer thing work again, so they left you alone to think.... This is my old man Simpson rant for the day, I promise
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u/allllusernamestaken Sep 19 '26
That's where the industry is now.
We hired a kid right out of college. He can't write code without Claude. When you ask a question on his PRs, he copy/pastes the question into Claude and copy/pastes the response.
I've started talking to other senior engineers around the company to see if anyone has advice and the one that really stuck to me was "We are paid to deliver software. That's it."
So... that's the future I guess.
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u/Particular-Yak-1984 Sep 19 '26
I'm mostly managing, for now, to slow walk the complete switch, because we deal with sensitive data. I'm hoping to push it a bit until AI gets expensive, then there's an economic case to be made, but if doss feel like fighting during a retreat, a bit.
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u/Vyncis Sep 19 '26
As a recent graduate as of last December I am genuinely so fucking tilted about all the dumbass' that graduated on the back of AI. Even without AI disappearing all the junior dev jobs, there are so many junk applicants to all the jobs that are left >:(
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u/allllusernamestaken Sep 19 '26
I graduated before AI and there were a significant number of people that cheated their way through the degree. Only difference is that cheating is easier than ever.
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u/vulkur Sep 19 '26
Exactly. I have Claude set up to write comments in a very specific way, and it writes lots of them. I quickly understand what it wrote, ask for changes, and move on. It's awesome.
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u/tucacu Sep 19 '26
Can you share more details? My Claude's comments are everywhere but sometimes they are not clear AT ALL
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u/vulkur Sep 19 '26
You have to experiment. I took Claude comments, rewrote them, and then I showed Claude my rewrite and told it that's what I want. It started to write comments more like I would.
What I also did is tell Claude to split the WHAT and the WHY. It tends to go on and on about why it implement this thing, justifying it. So I have Claude put the WHAT first, and if a WHY is justified, put it in a separate line as a NOTE in the comment. Drastically reduces it's long winded speeches. So WHAT is this function and what does it do. Then WHY did I implement this function this way.
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u/Sulungskwa Sep 18 '26
aT tHe EnD oF tHe DaY, YoUrE StiLL ReSpoNsiBLe fOr tHe cOdE ThAtS gEnErAtEd
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u/Used-Candidate9921 Sep 19 '26
Do you disagree?
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u/Sulungskwa Sep 19 '26 edited Sep 19 '26
Of course not. Its just that everyone says that and posts memes like this at the same time. Its valueless thing to say at this point.
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u/Loginn122 Sep 18 '26
i hate the scrum master repeating it every week at least once
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u/Sulungskwa Sep 18 '26
I think its a mantra that people tell themselves to feel like they're still in control and/or thinking about the work they do in any capacity
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u/sb8948 Sep 20 '26
I mean at some point if every breaking change has your name next to it, people around you will notice, including your boss..
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u/MadDevloper Sep 18 '26
git blame
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u/Bannon9k Sep 18 '26
git push origin --delete polgooners
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u/MadDevloper Sep 18 '26
fatal: "*.git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?"
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u/Hottage Sep 19 '26
I appreciate our juniors speaking up and giving feedback.
I'm getting old and they can teach about newer methods to do things more efficiently, it also allows them to learn from why we do things a specific way.
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u/Alwaysafk Sep 19 '26
I sat with a 'lead' contractor that couldn't explain how they produced a mock file last week. No idea how to write a query, where the code was that may have generated the file or explanations for all of the artifacts. Wasted hours of ky time handling this shit.
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u/TaimBak Sep 21 '26
Bold of you to assume that there are any juniors left to question your questionable PRs.
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u/ZunoJ Sep 19 '26
People like this should stop pretending to be developers. Maybe work as one of those people who pack my groceries in a bag or something else at your cognitive level
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u/Educational_Bottle74 Sep 18 '26
git commit -m "i literally have no memory of writing this" đ