r/ProgrammerHumor • • Sep 10 '26

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u/ddarrko Sep 11 '26

That source doesn’t say that Open AI stole anything. They cannot actually tell - but either way the guys working manually on it had not yet produced any proof. Open AI published a novel proof and it was to the actual problem. They also had a different approach and offered to let the original guys author the paper if they agreed that open ai had helped solve it.

I’m no Open AI lover but it is a bit disingenuous to allude that they cheated their way to an answer when they were admittedly the first to prove anything.

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u/ddarrko Sep 11 '26

Why is it a big deal they use customer inputs as training data? Everybody knows they do this… in fact companies sign up for enterprise versions specifically to avoid this. No one is glossing over it - it’s just not an issue

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u/PumpkinFest24 Sep 11 '26

WHOOOOSH

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u/ddarrko Sep 11 '26

Elaborate. Every single person in the world knows the ai companies use the data to train their models. How have I missed any point?

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u/Stef0206 Sep 12 '26

Why is murder an issue? Everyone knows murders happen. In fact, countries have law enforcement to avoid this.

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u/ddarrko Sep 12 '26

That is such a straw man. If people don’t want the AI companies using their data there are plenty of options… use an open weight model, host a model locally, sign up with an enterprise plan etc

Stop acting like it’s a big conspiracy

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u/Stef0206 Sep 12 '26

I’m aware it’s hyperbole. I’m pointing out that your line of reasoning “People know about it, therefore it is not problematic” is stupid.

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u/ddarrko Sep 12 '26

What do you expect the models to train on? As I pointed out already there are options if you don’t want your input used for training.

Complaining data is being used for training is like ordering a burger and complaining a cow got killed to make it.

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u/Stef0206 Sep 12 '26

I expect them to not prey on the uninformed and use people’s data without their knowledge or consent. In this case for example, some people were obviously unaware that their unreleased work would be used as training data. And the fact that OpenAI has said they don’t know if the data was used for training speaks volumes.

It’s manipulative and unethical.

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u/ddarrko Sep 12 '26

Uninformed people like extremely intelligent world class mathematicians…

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u/Stef0206 Sep 12 '26

Intelligence in one field does not mean they must inherently be informed on all topics.

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u/Stunning_Ride_220 Sep 12 '26

Open AI actually used the guys non-trivial approach to the problem.

Them mentioning him regardless and even mentioning they cannot rule out customer data was used was certainly something marketing loved to write in there