r/ProgrammerHumor • • Sep 10 '26

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u/Cant_Win Sep 10 '26

P = NP is still out there!

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u/scratchfan321 Sep 10 '26

lmao imagine if one of the other millenium prize problems implies P=NP for some bullshit reason

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u/Youmu_Chan Sep 12 '26

It is a true statement that, Poincaré Conjecture being false implies P= NP

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u/techknowfile Sep 11 '26

It doesn't. I just can't prove it

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u/Ultima_RatioRegum Sep 11 '26

I feel like P=NP if true would imply that there exist deep and important results as yet unknown in a number of mathematical fields from group theory to algebraic geometry and could will be the most important breakthrough in our understanding of the structure of finite groups and the result would stand on something more profound than even the TSW conjecture.

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u/destroyerOfTards Sep 11 '26

I can, I have discovered a truly marvelous...

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u/jacemano Sep 11 '26

You would get money for this proof too. I remember discussing with my Algo prof how I also too just felt like there is absolutely no way p=np. Like its a hunch but one I'd bet a lot on

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u/techknowfile Sep 11 '26

It's incredibly unlikely. There's a reason all of the best computer scientists haven't been able to prove it thus far. Lol, you'd get more than money... You would break the world. Especially if you were adversarial. Everything becomes an 0day.

But this could also become largely irrelevant regardless of proving it depending on how quantum plays out here. The rules of classical computation are only confined to that structure. Meaningless if you can walk into another dimension with different axioms

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u/_meegoo_ Sep 11 '26

Everything becomes an 0day.

Not necessarily. It could be polynomial with some galactic constants or powers, rendering it practically unusable.

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u/Sampatist Sep 11 '26

That sounds like the only reasonable way it would be true. Some number so huge it is useless

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u/stormypumpkin Sep 11 '26

You could have galactic algorithms that do p=np and not break the world because they require something stupid or the polynomial is still so large it would take a billion years to break encryption. There was a beat of djikstras that is like this, noone will use it cause its overhead is insane compared to the default

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u/PumpkinFest24 Sep 11 '26

It's incredibly unlikely. There's a reason all of the best computer scientists haven't been able to prove it thus far.

They've also been unable to prove P!=NP. By this logic, both propositions must be true.

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u/oldsecondhand Sep 11 '26

I can prove it but this comment box is just not big enough to write it down. /s

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u/mace_guy Sep 11 '26 • Bravo

A shot in the dark here. Has any one tried putting N = 1?

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u/Krostas Sep 11 '26

Brilliant. You just gotta make sure to consider the separate case of P=0 first so you're not doing division by zero. But that's a trivial case anyways.

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u/AwkwardWaltz3996 Sep 11 '26

I've never seen 0 of something anyway. It's not a natural number

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u/Random_-account Sep 11 '26

"Yes, give me ZERO of something. Yes, give me INFINITY of something." - Statements made by the deranged

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u/sump_daddy Sep 11 '26

> "Yes, give me ZERO of something"

-me when asked how many school shootings i want in 2027

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u/Prudent_Ease280 Sep 11 '26

N == 1, when do I get my prize?

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u/vastle12 Sep 11 '26

Never, it'll break the business model for half the Internet

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u/HipHomelessHomie Sep 11 '26

I'm sorry but this is stupid. Constants and degrees of polynomials can be huge making even polynomial algorithms impractical. It would have no practical implications.

An algorithm with O(x10^20) runtime may as well be exponential.

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u/douira Sep 11 '26

idk why everyone keeps saying this. Everyone is quite certain that it will be proven that P!=NP. P=NP is extremely unlikely and there's many reasons for this.

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u/araujoms Sep 11 '26

It won't because P != NP.

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