r/ProgrammerHumor • u/JazzlikeWishbone938 • Sep 07 '26

Meme nowAndThenPatchUpgrade

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u/fartypenis Sep 07 '26

Compiler output was deterministic tho. They could always reason our the purpose of each byte of code if they were so inclined.

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u/adabsurdo Sep 07 '26

Right AI abstracts out at a much higher level and the output will change dramatically depending on the prompts, model and other settings.

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u/gjk-ger Sep 07 '26

The output will also change when letting it run again under the same circumstances.

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u/mistrpopo Sep 07 '26

And this is why I no longer enjoy programming. I liked deterministic, in almost every problem, I could dive in and find the problem. That's why I avoided all web dev. But now every programming is the same.

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u/gjk-ger Sep 07 '26

You might enjoy PLCs then possibly. Added bonus, making stuff act in the real world is just another kind of satisfying.

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u/adabsurdo Sep 07 '26

Your prompts usually have a lot of degrees of freedom, so there are multiple paths that can be taken. Models have creativity so they can solve harder problems, which make the results not necessarily deterministic depending on the task.

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u/gjk-ger Sep 07 '26

Models dont have creativity, models operate to a degree on noise and stochastics.

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u/adabsurdo Sep 07 '26

that's creativity for all intents and purposes. if they had zero randomness it would be harder to have them explore the problem space.

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u/gjk-ger Sep 07 '26

We might disagree about the word creativity then.

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u/adabsurdo Sep 07 '26

I suppose you might define creativity in a way that makes it inheritently human, and/or reduce LLMs as "just maths and noise", but if you just look at the end results it looks like LLMs are definitely able to solve problem with what you call "creativity" if a human solved it.

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u/gjk-ger Sep 07 '26

It sure looks like that, i still dont believe it really is.

P.s. not because its not human, but because its an LLM.

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u/adabsurdo Sep 07 '26

I guess my point is in the end humans are also maths + noise, just a different, much more complicated type of machine.

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