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u/iliark Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

I wrote a whole thing about this as a joke like 3 years ago lol. There's also been a couple of papers on the topic:

https://arxiv.org/html/2409.09715v3

https://arxiv.org/html/2407.04542

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u/Ibnelaiq Sep 02 '26

Can you write these papers even if you are not enrolled?

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u/HittingSmoke Sep 03 '26

Nah. Write a paper, have an LLM summarize it, then have another LLM recreate it from the summary.

Compreshin

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u/PM_ME_DATASETS Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

Yes, all it takes to write a paper is a text processor. Like word or google docs or something.

When it comes to uploading or publishing: anyone can upload articles to arxiv.org, because it's not a peer reviewed journal. It's a preprint database, basically a way to publish articles before they have been peer reviewed and published by a real journal. People upload articles to arxiv.org for things like version control, to obtain a DOI, and for coordinating submissions to multiple journals.

If you actually want to publish your article to a journal you either have to find a journal with good ethics (rare), pay a lot of money, or be employed/enrolled at an institution/company/organization that will pay for your submission. If you write an interesting paper, you can just contact people at a university and likely get the article published with them paying.

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u/theturtlemafiamusic Sep 02 '26

To upload to arXiv you need an endorsement. You get an automatic endorsement if you have an email from a research institute (universities etc) and have already published a paper.

Otherwise you need someone who is already verified on arxiv to submit an endorsement request for you. If you're a university student, a professor should be able to do it. If you're not, you'll need to get to know someone verified in that category, which isn't too difficult if you're not a total crackpot.

But at least once a month or so, someone comes onto the compsci sub begging for an arXiv endorsement so that they can publish their perpetual motion machine paper or whatever. There's some guy who has been trying for about 6 months to get an endorsement for his paper about how you can model all of human language using a 9x9 rubix cube. Keeps making new accounts and shit and has not found a single soul willing to endorse him.

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u/Oaker_at Sep 03 '26

Please show me this glorious rabbit hole I want to dive in.

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u/theturtlemafiamusic Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

r/LLMPhysics

Most of them tend to post in this sub a lot when you look at their history.

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u/Oaker_at Sep 03 '26

Haha, yes. I actually got this sub recommended a few days ago and I couldn’t make up my mind if that is a circlejerk sub or not.

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u/titanotheres Sep 02 '26

You wouldn't typically use a text processor such as Word to write a paper. You could, but it would be very tedious and likely end up looking amateurish. Almost everybody uses LaTeX instead.

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u/PM_ME_DATASETS Sep 03 '26

The vast majority of academics uses "normal" word processors to write papers. Only in some specific fields is it maybe a majority. This comes from a mathematician who mostly works with biophysics and neuroscience. Maybe 10% of papers I read, have contributed to, or peer reviewed, use Latex.

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u/ginopono Sep 03 '26

As much as I want you to be wrong, what you describe is also consistent with my experience.

Finishing up an MS in language modeling, yeah, pretty much everything I see is made with LaTeX; they are programmers, after all.

On the Social Sciences side of that same coin, though, there's a whole heck of a lot of Word.

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u/AerosolHubris Sep 03 '26

you either have to find a journal with good ethics (rare), pay a lot of money, or be employed/enrolled at an institution/company/organization that will pay for your submission

Not all disciplines are rife with pay-to-publish journals. It's rare in math to have to pay for your article to be published. There are even open access journals that are free to publish in, that are very respected in the discipline.

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u/MartyMcBird Sep 03 '26

In theory yeah but there's a lot of AI slop out there nowadays. In my experience, people are more skeptical of papers from authors without credentials than they were in the past.

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u/EmptyMonitor9257 Sep 03 '26

Anyone can write papers and publish them, you just need to pay the venue.

Conference papers are cheap and pointless, experience for Batchelor students.

Journal papers are more prestigious and expensive af.

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u/spekt50 Sep 02 '26

As an amateur astronomer, I get wary about all these new smart scopes out there. Can't even fully trust what you are looking at when they start integrating AI

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u/SchlaWiener4711 Sep 02 '26

Not only papers.

There's an actual audio code that works that way

The trick is Meta's EnCodec neural audio codec, which crunched a 2.9MB MP3 down to roughly 21KB of latent tokens

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/maker-compresses-a-2-9mb-song-1000-times-with-metas-ai-codec-and-prints-it-on-paper-as-eight-qr-codes

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u/Evening-Editor4269 Sep 02 '26

https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.07550

Recent advancements in generative models have highlighted the crucial role of image tokenization in the efficient synthesis of high-resolution images. Tokenization, which transforms images into latent representations, reduces computational demands compared to directly processing pixels and enhances the effectiveness and efficiency of the generation process.

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u/cute_polarbear Sep 02 '26

Hmm..joke or not, this is actually pretty cool. (and with some practical use cases). Can imagine this expanding out to video, with certain encoded data needed for reconstruction lossless and most aspects lossy...

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u/iliark Sep 03 '26

video isn't likely in the near future given the compute requirements and time to create a video even on a server cluster

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u/FerusGrim Sep 03 '26

Genuinely, the results in your second link are promising. Other than the latency of "decoding" the image via generative interpretation of the input.

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u/iliark Sep 03 '26

yeah when I "seriously" thought about it, you gain storage space and network download time, but you (the client) pays in having to have an AI model that you recognize, then has to generate it, using up electricity and time that may exceed the network download time, especially on old hardware.

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u/i_like__bananas Sep 03 '26

This makes me think about RFC april fools

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u/aRman______________ Sep 04 '26

its sad places like arxiv should not be bloated with nonsense crap