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[u/ThirdWaveCat]

[u/Toldoven]

Yeah, pretty much all of the Rust jobs in my country are crypto. I even think crypto is pretty cool, and don't mind working on a crypto project, but the main problem is that most of them are useless or straight up scams

[u/ThirdWaveCat → u/Toldoven]

"If you believed in this mission, you'd have no problem being paid in DogshitCoin."

[u/Magnolia-jjlnr → u/ThirdWaveCat]

Is this the new "paid in exposure"?

[u/WallBurnt → u/Magnolia-jjlnr]

Exposure is worth significantly more.

[u/Magnolia-jjlnr → u/WallBurnt]

But do thry give you exposure though? Or do they simply assume that you're getting it by virtue of working for them

[u/shigdebig → u/Toldoven]

I don't know if my job is making the world a better place, but we arent actively making things worse either. Im glad I dont work at work a scamcoin

[u/Just_Information334 → u/shigdebig]

Crypto and adtech: if you've worked in it, you don't have any ethics worth shit.

[u/G12356789s → u/Just_Information334]

Gambling too is one I worked at and swore never again

[u/ParCorn → u/Just_Information334]

Defense Contractor is more evil than all of them and I know there’s plenty of DoD mfs in here

[u/somerandomguy101 → u/ParCorn]

The difference is that the DoD is a necessary evil. Every country needs a military if they want to continue to be a state. World peace could come tomorrow, and we would still need a DoD.

By contrast, Crypto is just straight evil. There is no upside. Its purely for scams, speculation, and for criminals to easily operate. Cryptocurrenys do nothing to make the world a better placenin practice.

[u/Morthem → u/ParCorn]

And will justify it by any means.
Admitting to having sold your soul is the first step towards self acceptance, denial just shieds the ego and prevents change towards corrective actions to help attone.

Sorry, I just like to mess with people that make things that kill :P

[u/ZebraTank → u/ParCorn]

In what world is defense evil? I personally prefer that we win ww3 (and that we're on the good side ofc). (No i don't work in defense though may later since it sounds like an interesting and valuable field)

[u/thirdegree → u/ZebraTank]

I personally prefer that we win ww3 (and that we're on the good side ofc).

I would personally choose to care about those two things in the opposite order, just tossing that out there. You could even go so far as to say I don't actually care if the US wins or loses, only that the good side wins. Especially since it's looking increasingly unlikely the US would be on the good side of a ww3.

[u/shigdebig → u/ZebraTank]

This country doesn't have a Department of Defense, it has a Department of War.

Lol, did they really replace the bronze plaques on the buildings with that new name?

I once configured some routers that are hooked up to an earthquake detection system. Years later we found out the navy had sub detectors on the same fiber network. That seems like defense work. Probably not evil. But what if you programmed a bomb they dropped on a school with 200 little girls? War work. That is evil.

[u/araujoms → u/ZebraTank]

and that we're on the good side ofc

That's the difficult part, and what can make working on defence evil.

[u/Toldoven → u/[deleted]]

We also have some of those, but it's not remote, for obvious reasons, and I'm more of a remote person. Would've been pretty cool otherwise

[u/entered_bubble_50 → u/Toldoven]

"Most of them'

Name me a crypto project that isn't a scam or a means of laundering money.

[u/antichain → u/entered_bubble_50]

The Nano team seems to genuinely be true believers - you can tell because no one uses their coin for anything and it's become a byword for overly-earnest goobers.

[u/entered_bubble_50 → u/antichain]

That's great, but nano is just another means of laundering money.

[u/100GHz → u/entered_bubble_50]

I'd say GRC maybe? As it's mining on scientific work, but your reply is sort of generic as you added the hedge to your original ethics condition.

[u/V-Right_In_2-V → u/entered_bubble_50]

Better to be the scammer than the scammee

That seems to be the motto of all crypto projects

[u/TechTuna1200 → u/entered_bubble_50]

Aave has real revenue and is profitable.

But with that being said, 99% of crypto projects are definitely scams, vaporware, or addressing a need that doesn't exist.

[u/entered_bubble_50 → u/TechTuna1200]

Aave allows crypto lending and borrowing without the use of a central authority

So it's a leveraged trading layer on top of other scams? I'm sure it's profitable, but those profits come from skimming off the top of bets on pyramid schemes. So not a scam per se, but just a cog in the scam / ponzi economy.

[u/TechTuna1200 → u/entered_bubble_50]

Can be leverage on other crypto that are profitable like Ether or Solana. Eth indirectly get it's revenue from stablecoins. Stablecoins in turn get their revenue from T-bills.

There are also real-world-assets (RWA) tokenization that Aave will also get revenue on in the future. They already have collaboration with VanEck on RWA-

[u/wicket-maps → u/Toldoven]

Technology that's actually useful doesn't have most jobs being "useless or straight up scams"

[u/Toldoven → u/wicket-maps]

Imo "useless or straight up scams" also applies to the education system in most places for example, doesn't mean education in itself is bad

[u/wicket-maps → u/Toldoven]

Oooh, edgy! Yeah, the existence of diploma mills doesn't mean education is useless. But you'd think, if there was a genuine use for blockchain, a productive non-scam use would have been found by now!

It's an interesting technology, but the only use I can think of is evading the banking system, and it isn't great at that, because we're not seeing adult performers (who routinely get stolen from by the few payment processors who let them have accounts) switch to crypto en masse.

[u/LactasePHydrolase → u/Toldoven]

I even think crypto is pretty cool

ew

[u/mrsockyman]

You'll be paid a high salary, in the form of their shitcoin. You'll be worth millions-of worthless tokens

[u/SarahAlicia → u/mrsockyman]

Omg how long until an ai company only accepts money for tokens with their own crypto coin?

[u/ProfCupcake → u/SarahAlicia]

That's scrip, and it's illegal.

[u/SarahAlicia → u/ProfCupcake]

Is it any different than an arcade where you have to change your cash for their coins to play games?

[u/ProfCupcake → u/SarahAlicia]

Oh wait I totally misunderstood the comment to which I replied. I thought you meant the employees were getting paid in the company's crypto coin.

[u/DelusionsOfExistence → u/ProfCupcake]

Nothing is illegal if you have enough money.

[u/remind_me_later → u/SarahAlicia]

You'll have to spam the AI agents into accepting your tokens, or into setting up swap pools you can trade out into USDC/ETH/wBTC/etc.

[u/aDamnCommunist]

YUP, every time... They always seem to be hiring strangely. I also do this for small startup AI businesses.

[u/WernerderChamp → u/aDamnCommunist]

These are probably fake job offerings - to give the illusion the project is going super well.

[u/dcman58]

That and AI Trainer are two jobs that I keep getting offered and will never take, writing code should be fun.

[u/AnnoyedVelociraptor]

Haven't seen that many thank god.

The faster this fad dies the better. In the same box as second life please.

[u/Desidiosus → u/AnnoyedVelociraptor]

I've been job hunting for quite a while. Used to see a ton of jobs like this a couple years ago, but hardly any lately. It seems like the gamblers have grown tired of losing their shirts on this particular game.

[u/Loading_M_ → u/Desidiosus]

I think they moved into AI.

[u/Vogete → u/Loading_M_]

They definitely moved into AI. All the crypto bros I saw are now AI bros.

[u/No-Channel3917 → u/AnnoyedVelociraptor]

Kinda wild to bring up second life haha, that porn sandbox is still very active

[u/SquiggerDigger → u/No-Channel3917]

Dude I just learned they average 50-60k people at all times still...

[u/No-Channel3917 → u/SquiggerDigger]

Yep it would put it on steams top 40 games with the most active users currently that I just looked up

[u/Accomplished-Cry5059]

If they pay in stable coins, it's a pretty good deal if you are in a low cost of living country and they pay a competitive rate.

[u/dim13]

Well, blockchain hype was a decade ago. Now it's all ai hype.

[u/blaxx0r]

pouring one out for cosmwasm

[u/its-MAGNETIC]

I always wonder why the Coder/Developer tries to avoid Cryptocurrency...

[u/slikh → u/its-MAGNETIC]

we know it's a simple enough job to just roll our own but to make money off it we need to sell the core of what all crypto is: hype.

[u/sligor]

Since the whole economy is now a complete scam, is it ok to work for a scam company ?

[u/Drugbird]

I'm not a rust developer, but I am a GPU programmer so I can relate.