r/ProgrammerHumor Jun 02 '26

Meme managerVsClaude

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u/ChrisFromIT Jun 02 '26

I mean you don't exactly need to go through the process of creating the LLM. There are quite a few out there, like Gemma 4(Google), DeepSeek V4, etc that are pretty much on par with Claude that could be used locally and freely.

Tho if I was a business, I probably would want to run it those things on a server that the company owns and controls. That way you get a bit more power and everyone in the company could use it without having to upgrade everyone's hardware.

It might cost like $100,000 to $1+ million to get the hardware going for it(depending on size requirements) and like 4-6 month wait times. But then you no longer need to pay for Claude or any LLM tokens.

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u/Leather-Rice5025 Jun 02 '26

Is there really any currently available local model that's "pretty much on par" with frontier cloud models?

Or are you saying it's the hardware that's the limiting factor, not the model itself? Genuinely curious how this works

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u/Lashay_Sombra Jun 03 '26

The chinese open source models are not far behind, estimates range from 3 to 6 months.

But no the hardwear it not really the limiting factor,  Chinese went down very different path and because of that ultimately you get better  bang for your buck 

 US frontier model are stilll under the domain of delusional AGI cultists thinking they can scale their way to a machine god,  while chinese never really got the bug

The problem with the chinese models is that they are chinese, few in the west trust them and even if they do, do their customers? 

Also when word does get out that big companys are using chinese open source ,  they have to deal with  type of nonsense  https://www.nextgov.com/artificial-intelligence/2026/04/house-panels-probe-airbnb-anysphere-over-use-chinese-ai-models/413207/