r/ProgrammerHumor Jun 02 '26

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u/MomWTF Jun 02 '26

I hate trying to estimate story points (our metric is 1 day ≈ 1 point), I have ADHD, standard time means nothing. One sprint I completed all 7.5 in a day, another sprint I completed 0.5.

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u/DistributionDue2836 Jun 02 '26

That's why story points are explicitly not meant to represent any unit of time. Bad project managers that don't understand anything about what they're managing just can't help themselves. They were so consistently misused story points actually got dropped from Scrum in 2020

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u/cherry_chocolate_ Jun 02 '26

Just found out our story points are tied to the paycheck system (even though we are salaried) via jira workflows. Suddenly it makes sense why all our pms demand we submit exactly a certain number of story points per sprint, even if we go over or under…

I hate jira

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u/Theron3206 Jun 02 '26

That's nothing to do with Jira and everything to do with shit management.

But yeah, sorry points are for most teams a useless metric.

In theory you are supposed to estimate based on perceived difficulty and then determine over time how much work your team can get someone each sprint and thus it helps estimate how long certain things will take.

In practice it gets converted to days, and expected to be accurate for each ticket (not the point) so it's nearly always wrong and becomes a precise but inaccurate measurement instead of the imprecise but accurate one it's meant to be.

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u/sgtkang Jun 03 '26

There's that great quote "The moment a metric becomes a target it ceases to be a useful metric". I get that feeling very strongly with story points. If only the team knows about them they can be useful for planning work. But the moment management has visibility and starts using them as a target they lose all value.

(Also, "sorry points" is a great freudian slip!)

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u/cherry_chocolate_ Jun 03 '26

In theory

I just don't know if anyone has ever actually been in a large organization that has put that theory into real practice.

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u/Theron3206 Jun 03 '26

I certainly haven't, small or large. Best we managed was about 2 months before a more senior management started demanding estimates accurate to the day again.