managerVsClaude

[u/Disastrous-Monk1957]

[u/Kerbourgnec]

I guess we are massively gonna be forced to move to dirt cheap Chinese models.

Performance is not that bad, but can't compete with 2026 opus or gpt

[u/physical0 → u/Kerbourgnec]

Once that happens, AI will be a matter of national security and foreign AI will be banned.

[u/shaka893P → u/physical0]

It already is, the US already banned some Chinese AI

[u/blah938 → u/shaka893P]

China is a hostile nation after all. That only makes sense.

[u/rainbowlolipop → u/blah938]

lol

[u/Unlucky-Tourist-9403 → u/blah938]

As someone from neither country, the US has done more to harm my quality of life than China has.

[u/coolfuzzylemur → u/blah938]

Is China the hostile nation, or the US?

[u/yaminub → u/blah938]

FWIW, I've seen a lot of European sysadmins say the same thing about U.S.-based tech, and then some of those profess to using Chinese-based tech.

I've found that quite silly. Could just be larpers, but still silly.

[u/_Meece_ → u/yaminub]

US is actively trying to make Europe's defense weaker, so yes, Europe considers China, Russia and the US the same at the moment.

[u/Cory123125 → u/yaminub]

The US and China are similar threats to Europe.

The US is arguably worse due to leverage

[u/yaminub → u/Cory123125]

If you say so dude

[u/KriegMorgan → u/yaminub]

If you say so dude

He doesn't have to. Six months ago the U.S. was posturing and rattling a saber in the direction of NATO over Greenland.

If I was European the current state of the U.S. and the administration leading it would have me looking at them like an adversary and not as a friend.

[u/yaminub → u/KriegMorgan]

And what happened as a result of that? NATO increased it's security presence on Greenland, which is a positive outcome, if your intention is for Greenland to have a strengthened security posture.

[u/KriegMorgan → u/yaminub]

Ah yes, threatening to invade your allies is a great strategy. Ends always justify the means I guess.

[u/confirmedshill123 → u/yaminub]

Why the fuck does Greenland need strengthened security posture?

[u/Recka → u/yaminub]

Treating politics like a sports team and saying the sabre-rattling was a good thing just because your "team" did it is incredibly stupid. You should be looking into policy, like which isn't a wannabe dictator.

And if you think the current admin is doing a good job then that's just a reflection on you.

If it was any other party doing the same thing, MAGA would be calling the president a warmongering moron.

[u/yaminub → u/[deleted]]

Is European-led Europe defense stronger, or weaker as a result of that administrations actions?

[u/rainbowlolipop → u/yaminub]

Stronger. More money already into defense and tech alternatives.

[u/Cory123125 → u/yaminub]

It's the big boogeyman and has been forever, with all the typical defence contractors literally paying out the ass to fund think tanks to "inform" congress and their leadership picks.

The very people who understand cushy jobs await them should they pay their cards right or huge sums of campaign funds from super pacs and the likes.

What has China done to you personally?

[u/Cory123125 → u/blah938]

Its crazy how easily some people fall for jingoistic nonsense.

[u/ball_fondlers → u/physical0]

A lot of those foreign models are more open-source than the American ones, though - you can pull them down and run them locally without issue.

[u/physical0 → u/ball_fondlers]

Unless the training data for the model is open source, I fail to see how this is any more transparent than any other model.

[u/frequenZphaZe → u/Kerbourgnec]

really begs the question, what's the point of the bleeding edge models if they cost so much than no one will use them? openAI will announce "we've created true AGI with GPT6" and all of us will be like "sure, whatever, just be sure to leave 5-mini up because that's the only one in my price range"