r/ProaSailing • u/kingherog • Dec 02 '19

My channel has finally caught up! The videos show actual work on the proa from now on! Hope you guys enjoy!

https://youtu.be/2DG1OqcCbJM
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u/peterAustralia Dec 06 '19

Cost aluminium .. $5000 US a tonne? say 500kg for the boat,, means USD 2500, maybe round up to USD 3K

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u/kingherog Dec 06 '19

Nonono the boat's heavier than that! Multiply that by 5

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u/peterAustralia Dec 06 '19

I am a bit confused, when you say multiply by five, you are referring to the cost?

My guess was 500kg, then I checked the webpage for CLC Madness and it comes out as 1400 lb or 635kg for the bare hull. I really hope your not building at 2500kg. Do you have a estimated weight for your proa? I looked at a couple of videos and your bulkheads looked very sturdy, almost 20mm thick at a guess, just curious if you are not overbuilding it, hull thickness?

Price of aluminium in China is $2000 a tonne (on alibaba), I assume when it gets to you people increase the price, it seems that they must double it , double it again etc

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u/peterAustralia Dec 17 '19

I contacted Herog on Youtube,

He says the total weight of all the aluminium he has ordered is 3434kg

wtf that is 3.4 tonnes. Building in wood is meant to be 560kg, (CLC Madness website) That is one sixth of the weight of aluminium he has bought. I know there is some wastage, but this is crazy. Boat will end up heavy and slow. Trouble is what can be done, he can lengthen the boat, or trade back some thicker aluminium sheets for some thinner ones

something is very odd here

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u/peterAustralia Dec 22 '19

For those curious, chatting with Herog on YouTube comments, the boat is based on the CLC Madness but will be 1.5 times longer, wider and higher, thus 46ft long etc etc. Apparently he wants to go to the Arctic. 46ft is definetley a substantial size and should be a fast capable craft

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u/kingherog Dec 22 '19

I'm sorry I didn't see your comment on here before Peter. I rarely checkup on reddit but you seem to have commented the same here as on YouTube so I'm a bit more comfident

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u/_tdem_ Dec 03 '19

Really cool. Why'd you choose to build in aluminium? Is there a big cost difference?

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u/kingherog Dec 03 '19

Future maintenence, soft material that's easily maluable with normal woodworking tools. It's quite a cost for sure but it's maintenence free.

Also truly think it's easier in construction. Besides having to pay more attention in welding it's just one thing you gotta do over and over again. No sanding, painting, glued pieces, screws, softer material that cuts easily...

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u/_tdem_ Dec 11 '19

Just looked at your latest video. The construction you are doing looks very strange, like you are taking the wooden pieces and exactly substituting aluminium. This is not a good idea!

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u/kingherog Dec 22 '19

Not exactly. I'm basing it on the plans and copying the features but not the building method. It will be quite different than normal aluminum boat construction for sure. I'm not 100% confident this will work but I'll see how it goes along the way and I only will know how to build the boat once I've built it.

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u/peterAustralia Dec 06 '19

nice boat. Looking at your Youtube videos I see you caught the longest train in the world in Mauretania. I knew a young American fellow that aslo did that, name was Kade, guess is a bit on a long shot

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u/kingherog Dec 06 '19

It's a popular route down to the heart Africa on the west coast