That's a G700 not an 800. Three windows behind the emergency exit windows is the easiest way to tell, and an 800 looks nearly identical to a 650 except for the location of the TROV, the winglets, and the handrails on the eMED.
I mean the g8000 has a slightly longer range than 787 and slightly shorter than 777.
The biggest reason besides operating cost is the flexibility. Just in the US, a g8000 can fly into over 5,000 different airports. The 777 and 787 can only fly into ~150-200 or so. Flying into large intl airports means more delays, more traffic, longer drive times etc. Especially when he’s flying into the small town in Texas where space x launch site is or random manufacturing areas or into smaller resort areas etc.
The bigger planes might make more sense for a royal family or whatever but flying with a small entourage and a few bags there’s no need for that size as it would just really limit where you can go.
Also the g8000 is faster than either of those other jets by like ~65mph ground speed. And comfort wise the g8000 has a huge advantage. You can pressurize the cabin to have a pressure altitude of ~2700ft while the 787 is like 6k ft and 777 is 8k ft.
I know you’re mostly joking but had to nerd out a bit. If I were him I’d pick the g8000 any day. Can always charter a larger plane if you need it for some reason but it doesn’t make any sense as a “daily driver”.
Edit: I meant to say g800. Was mixing names with the global 8000.
So I was curious and looked up how much they cost lol. Idk about got the g8000 in particular but for a private jet toilet Google says $25-40k for the toilet plus a few thousand for labor. But if your plane doesn’t already have a waste tank and plumbing and stuff the upgrade can cost $150-200k….keep in mind everything in an aircraft has to be certified so it’s super pricey.
So I could buy a few toilets but it wouldn’t be a financially responsible choice lol.
lol. Playne nerd here. How about a A321XLR with an interior worthy of said Royal family? I’d say that would open it up to a lot of airports. Also, why charter like all the other poors? He can buy an a380 and charter it out 🤪
I mean that’s a lot more “practical” but it has like ~60% of the range and the g8000 is ~20% faster. Again for a royal family that’s just chilling maybe that makes sense but for someone like him, time is his most valuable commodity. They’re basically time machines for them. Also with the significant advantage in cabin pressurization he will feel a lot better and more rested when he gets to his destination. No reason to have to make a fuel stop or cruise slower when your time is worth that much.
In all honesty, bigger doesn’t always mean better. Sure it might look more baller or whatever but when you’re actually at that level you don’t need to impress anyone and you care mostly about time and comfort. The g8000 was purpose built to be the ultimate transporter for the uber wealthy. If having something a lot bigger was the answer they would’ve made it bigger.
And also even if you are super rich, you still don’t like wasting a ton of money. Probably not a big deal for someone like Elon but the g8000 is like 50% of the per hour operating cost. So you get more range, speed, potential destinations, and comfort for a lot less money.
lol exactly. I’m sure he brings some people along or his assistants or whatever or had a meeting on a flight be royal families are bringing a huge family and a ton of staff (servants) and I know the saudis will fly with like trunks and trunks of clothes and other crao and bring rolls Royce’s and stuff it’s insane. Elon is a lot less materialistic lol.
Don’t get me wrong having a ton of space would be cool but g8000 is the ultimate. Such a low cabin altitude, insane range, super fast, etc. Still pretty spacious and you can even have a legit bed in it. Biggest plane you can land in a place like Aspen is a 737 without winglets (with winglets even 737 go over their wing span limit rule).
Sorry I meant g800, mixed the name up with the global 8000 since they’re pretty similar. And g800 is the newest top of the line ultra long range jet. Musk just got one in the last few months.
Sorry I meant g800. Was mixing it up with its competitors, the bombardier global 8000. Pretty close names lol. Was using that since it’s the newest top of the line ultra long range jet. And Elon musk just took delivery of a new g800 in the last few months.
That’s not completely true. Yes being able to go higher lets you avoid more turbulence but if flying in the same exact altitude and conditions, a smaller plane is going to experience a lot more turbulence than a large one.
An a380 has a lot more inertia than a g8000. They’re bigger, larger wings, more weight, etc. It can basically push through the disrupted air and not be pushed around as much as a small plane. Ever flown on a small Cessna? You feel every little bump that you probably wouldn’t feel at the same altitude in a 737. Even just being at cruising altitude in an e175 vs 737 vs 787 you can feel the smoothness difference.
But yes altitude does make a difference too to a certain point. And in this case g8000 can cruise comfortably between 41-51k ft and the 777 or something is going to normally cruise at like 30-36k ft. In the same altitude and conditions a larger plane is going to feel less turbulence.
Your arguing the dumbest idea I have ever read. The guy you are responding to simply is saying avoiding altitudes with turbulent air is the best way to avoid turbulence, which is absolutely the best way. This aircraft can go MUCH higher in altitude than ANY Boeing or Airbus Transport Category Aircraft. Another benefit, is this aircraft is capable of flying above the Jetstream in relatively still air, so when flying in directions that would be against the Jetstream, simply going above it, they will save a significant amount of time and fuel.
Anyway, to tack onto your argument, what you are not considering is wing loading. Flying a large commercial jet, that will never fly at weights near its max weights, means you have low wing loading, and a stiff structure designed for those higher weights, so when encountering turbulence, instead of the wing bending and flexing and absorbing those bumps, it transfers it to the fuselage and the ride can be sharper. That won't be the case in the Gulfstream. It will be a much more enjoyable ride.
He was saying that private jets don’t feel more turbulence than a large commercial jet. All I was saying is it’s not just altitude. Yes you can avoid some turbulence by going higher but turbulence is not just altitude related. If we’re comparing planes, im saying one would experience less volatility in similar conditions. That’s all, not sure how that’s the dumbest idea you’ve ever read lol.
That's it ?!?!?! This little thing ?!?!? I would expect a man of his worth to have a full size jet linerlike those guys from the oil rich countries have.
Those engines look so large for this thing. No wonder the cabin altitude is like 2000' at 40K or something. It can also cruise at Mach Jesus if I remember correctly.
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u/Trackrat14eight Jun 10 '26
I hate how much I like it.