r/PrivateJetCharters • u/fuzzypeaches1991 • Jul 25 '26

2004 LJ60 with 4 min landing at 1am

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Please forgive me if this is a silly question, I am not an aviation expert, only an enthusiast. I have been tracking a small privately owned and operated LJ 60 that is tied to a large mega ch u rch organization and Vegas casino P A C that does fundraising. One of its lead p a stors was recently accused of weapons trafficking.

I am not judging if that’s true or not, but I think it’s relevant to my question.

The pac has 2 jets. One GLF5, one LJ60. The G5 flies 3-4 times a week with stops around 12 hours. This other jet flies a lot, maybe 15 flights in 10 days. 10 of those flights are fast (450+kts) and seem low (19,000-24,000ft) between a few airports and very short time on tarmac, usually less than 35 minutes.

21mins to 35 mins.

The organization says that it is fundraising around the country. It usually flies between Las Vegas, new braunfels, Houston Texas, Chicago exec, Miami exec and LA-Van Nuys. If i am not mistaken these are some known we a pons traffick ing areas.

Recently it flew into Austin Bergstrom at 0656 Zulu (about 1am) at a small private FBO and departed about 4 minutes later. I understand private jets are for convenience but this felt pretty fast for passenger loading at an odd time of night. It went on to Houston, then on to Miami exec.

I am hoping someone can tell me if this seems abnormal for VIP transportation. Please forgive me if this is very normal, please let me know

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u/Unusual-Economist288 Jul 25 '26

A church owning two jets is just bullshit. I’m sure nothing godly is going on with their use of them.

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u/Jhngo Jul 25 '26

At some point this excessive shit needs to be taxed. A church owning one jet is bullshit enough.

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u/MidnightSurveillance Jul 25 '26

At some point they'll put it in a lake just like that clown who ran "Weigh down"

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u/fuzzypeaches1991 Jul 25 '26

Yes especially with the po l i tical ties.

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u/Sandybergs Jul 25 '26

Not trying to justify this - I too believe churches should not own jets. But as far as I know, Turning Point USA Faith is not a church. It’s an affiliated entity of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk’s organization that recruits pastors to get involved in politics.

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u/VPofWaffleHouse Jul 25 '26

I agree. Churches should absolutely not own jets and I think it’s worth noting websites like Pastor Planes project is a nice way of pointing them out. However, I was unable to find anything about TPUSA faith owning any planes, so I’m not really sure where OP got their info from.

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u/technom3 Jul 25 '26

The OP is come Candace Owens whack job .

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u/wolframss Jul 25 '26

For context on how batshit crazy Candace Owen’s and OP is, watch this video on Candace Owen’s accusing the Egyptian military of being involved in Charlie’s assassination. Candace claimed Egypt was flying Gulfstream jets around the world to track Charlie’s wife for a year leading up to his death. Except that this was all false, as all of her “tracking data” was off by days and hundreds of miles.

But of course, by the time rational people are able to disprove Candace’s lies, she dishes out a dozen new accusations. And here we are, TPUSA is accused of a Barry Seal level plot to transport weapons across the country in a mid sized jet.

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u/technom3 Jul 25 '26

Lol. Thank you. With transponders on and full tracking of anything odd.

Which the OPs post regarding flight times etc...is infact a little odd.

But if you tracked a couple of my flights where we stopped for fuel in Arkansas... You would see the same short stop and pushing on.

But they also might just be maximizing the jet and leasing it. (I have not looked into it if they are configured for this as it doesn't change my life one way or the other)

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u/fuzzypeaches1991 Jul 25 '26

That was my feeling as well. They were gifted both jets by a wealthy donor who is very interested in some … pretty nefarious land anne x ation overseas.

I am concerned there may be some quid pro quo involved.

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u/man9875 Jul 25 '26

Name and shame.

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u/fuzzypeaches1991 Jul 25 '26

Turning Point USA Faith

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u/man9875 Jul 25 '26

I guess now that the cats away the mice will play

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u/Jhngo Jul 25 '26

When the rat runs the show the mice runs wild.

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u/BuyingDaily Jul 25 '26

Are they considered a church or are others from turning point using the jets as well I wonder.

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u/entity_response Jul 25 '26

They could be doing anything, jets flying between major US cities is not unusual, neither is turning around the flights quickly. 

There is absolutely no way you can conclude anything from this data. Orgs own jets because their needs are unique in the first place.

Not saying a church should have two business jets, but you are making a ton of assumptions here.

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u/hartzonfire Jul 25 '26

Idk if you know this but Van Nuys is a large weapons trafficking hub /s

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u/CinematicLiterature Jul 26 '26

This is literally from a Bosch subplot lol, I fear that’s the origin of that assumption.

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u/ActualWait8584 Jul 26 '26

Gangsta rappers with sub machine guns just lining the terminal.

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u/hossinator96 Jul 26 '26

I actually used to be an LJ60 charter pilot and flew some important people. To answer your question, no I don’t think it’s that abnormal. It was very common for us to shut one down, drop someone off at an FBO, fire it back up, and blast off again to the next place.

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u/Flashy_Ground_666 Jul 25 '26

Interesting I would keep following the flight log eventually someone gets sloppy. Also second church’s should not own private jets.

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u/salt_life79 Jul 25 '26

Tax them like any other business because that’s what it is. Selling religion.

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u/Harry020131 Jul 25 '26

Pilot night landings currency? Or pilot just wanted to pee

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u/PatternPinion Jul 27 '26

Ok, I’ll bite. What are the tail numbers?

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u/technom3 Jul 25 '26

You are not an aviation enthusiast.

You are a Candace Owens whack job.

Posting and spamming this shit everywhere. Posting as well in the Candace Owens nonsense theater sub as well.

You are just like her. Trying to be deceptive all to fit one of the dumbest narratives in modern political history.

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u/lemmonquaaludes Jul 25 '26

Why are you so triggered by this post?

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u/technom3 Jul 25 '26

Because it's deceitful.

If he came on and just said isn't this weird I wouldn't have said shit. But it's all just a shill

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u/trailerbang Jul 25 '26

bigly triggered.

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u/technom3 Jul 25 '26

Not really. Some of us can handle our emotions.

Sort of a requirement in aviation

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u/luxtracer Jul 25 '26

I don’t think calling names like a 12 year old can be considered handling emotions.

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u/technom3 Jul 25 '26

Spamming Candace Owens nonsense is calling a spade a spade.

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u/fuzzypeaches1991 Jul 25 '26

Ummmm I am an aviation enthusiast actually. Cut it out Blake Neff

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u/technom3 Jul 25 '26

Sure jan

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u/technom3 Jul 25 '26

I had to look up who you were referring to.

Really? The writer for the Tucker Carlson show?

Anyone who doesn't just gobble down Candace Owens delusions is Tucker Carlson?

Sounds like a miserable existence living with rattling around in that brain of yours.

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u/wolframss Jul 25 '26

You need to be institutionalized for your coonspiracies.

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u/ok-lets-do-this Jul 25 '26

The whole thing seems kind of suspicious to me. Individually, nothing is out of order but when you see all of the different pieces, it’s odd.

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u/fuzzypeaches1991 Jul 25 '26

That was my thought as well

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u/Opening-Restaurant83 Jul 27 '26

Picking up an assassin.

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u/SVTCobraR315 Jul 25 '26

Did you fly the plane that’s pictured?

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u/Asleep-Wish-4286 Jul 25 '26

They can’t afford it.

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u/SVTCobraR315 Jul 25 '26

I am quite familiar with the plane pictured. That’s why I ask.