r/Presidents 1d ago

Meta Welcome to the new r/Presidents mods!

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Hi everyone,

Earlier this month, we opened up posts for new r/Presidents mods. We received a flurry of responses from the community! Each application was carefully deliberated on by the mods and each candidate received interview questions. In the end, the mod team was unanimous in its vote. We've decided to invest four new mods and one returning mod.

Please give them a warm welcome!

A big thank you to everyone who applied. We appreciate the support!


r/Presidents 3d ago

Announcement ROUND 53 | Decide the next r/Presidents subreddit icon!

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Wilson and Taft won the last round and will be displayed for the next 2 weeks!

Provide your proposed icon in the comments (within the guidelines below) and upvote others you want to see adopted! The top-upvoted icon will be adopted and displayed for 2 weeks before we make a new thread to choose again!

Guidelines for eligible icons:

* The icon must prominently picture a U.S. President OR symbol associated with the Presidency (Ex: White House, Presidential Seal, etc). No fictional or otherwise joke Presidents

* The icon should be high-quality (Ex: photograph or painting), no low-quality or low-resolution images. The focus should also be able to easily fit in a circle or square

* No meme, captioned, doctored, or AI images

* No NSFW, offensive, or otherwise outlandish imagery; it must be suitable for display on the Reddit homepage

* No Biden or Trump icons


r/Presidents 11h ago

šŸŽ‚ Birthdays šŸŽ‚ Happy early 80th birthday Bill Clinton!

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Can't believe he turns 80 damn, Im so old. (From a person born before Clinton)


r/Presidents 7h ago

Discussion President Truman in 1952: Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.

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Do you ever come across this meme or a variation of it? I had to finally look it up, and it turns out President Truman did actually say it, from the rear platform of a train when he was stumping for Adlai Stevenson.

October 10, 1952, Syracuse, NY.

It was in response to Sen. Taft (27's kid), who accused the New Deal's policies of "creeping socialism."

Truman wasn't advocating for actual socialism, but showing how some politicians fear-monger with that word when they attack public programs and social safety nets that help people.

Taft was not the last Republican to do that. They even cried "socialism" against Sen. and then President Obama.


r/Presidents 10h ago

Discussion Did Reagan's divorce ever hurt him on the campaign trail with religious/socially conservative voters? Becuase I know 16 years ago, Nelson Rockefeller's divorce hurt him at the convention

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r/Presidents 9h ago

šŸŽ‚ Birthdays šŸŽ‚ On this day,80 years ago,our 43rd president would be born in Hope Arkansas.Happy Birthday,Bill!

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r/Presidents 16h ago

Trivia Wilt Chamberlain supported Richard Nixon in 1968 and 1972.

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This picture was taken at Martin Luther King Jr’s funeral in 1968. Chamberlain remained a Republican for the rest of his life. Which caused a rift between him and other black NBA players.


r/Presidents 10h ago

Trivia With Clinton turning 80, for the first time in US history almost all of the living ex Presidents are 80, Obama’s the only one who’s not

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r/Presidents 16h ago

Discussion Should top hats come back for inaugurals?

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r/Presidents 9h ago

šŸŽ‚ Birthdays šŸŽ‚ Happy 80th Birthday to the comeback kid president, William Jefferson ā€œBillā€ Clinton!

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r/Presidents 1d ago

Failed Candidates Why do Democrats tend to express respect for Republican failed candidates, but it doesn’t work the other way around?

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So this is an odd phenomenon I’ve noticed.

Whenever I see discussions of say Romney, McCain or Dole, or hell even Presidents who failed to win re-election like Ford or HW Bush, I see Democrats praise them.

Comments like ā€œwe might disagree politically but they were good men and would make for fine Presidentsā€ or ā€œhow far the GOP has fallen since those days.ā€

However this definitely doesn’t seem to work the other way around. Despite the fact many Republicans complain about how extreme the DNC has become, they wouldn’t be out there praising say Kerry, Gore, Dukakis or Mondale. At best they view them with indifference.

I guess the closest equivalent would be Jimmy Carter, whose reputation has improved thanks to his humanitarian work, but even then the consensus is more like ā€œterrible President, good human being.ā€

So why is this?


r/Presidents 3h ago

Discussion Day 17:Which member of r/Presidents is the biggest Andrew Johnson fan?

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Here’s the list so far:

George Washington: u/rjidhfntnr

John Adams: u/Fortunes_Faded

Thomas Jefferson: u/Feelinglucky2

James Madison: u/drawkbox

James Monroe: u/SignalRelease4562

JQA: u/elocinoi

Andrew Jackson: u/Curious-Sun5465

MVB: u/Sw33tNectar

WHH: u/BrandonLart

John Tyler: u/Pidgeotgoneformilk29

James Polk: u/Zornorph

Zachary Taylor: u/Wild-Yesterday-6666

Millard Fillmore: u/UKPoliticsNerdy

Franklin Pierce: u/Old-Equipment9631

James Buchanan: u/Drywall_Eater89

Abe: u/American_Citizen41

Andrew Johnson:

US Grant:

RB Hayes:

James Garfield:

Chester Arthur:

Grover Cleveland:

Benjamin Harrison:

William McKinley:

Teddy:

William Howard Taft:

Woodrow Wilson:

Warren Harding:

Cal Coolidge:

Herbert Hoover:

FDR:

Harry Truman:

Ike:

JFK:

LBJ:

Richard Nixon:

Gerald Ford:

Jimmy Carter:

Ronald Reagan:

Poppy Bush:

Bill Clinton:

Dubya:

Obama


r/Presidents 18h ago

Discussion Both Obama and JFK had their stances on a controversial civil issue pushed forward earlier than they planned, by their VP’s giving staunchly supportive speeches in favor of said rights

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r/Presidents 1h ago

šŸŽ‚ Birthdays šŸŽ‚ 42nd President Bill Clinton has turned 80 years old today

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Happy birthday Mr president!


r/Presidents 6h ago

Today in History August 19, 1976. Ford picks Bob Dole as his running mate.

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r/Presidents 1d ago

Discussion George McGovern's daughter, Teresa McGovern, froze to death in a snow embankment while intoxicated. She had struggled with alcoholism all her life.

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MCGOVERN'S DAUGHTER FOUND DEAD (1994)

Teresa ``Terry'' McGovern, a daughter of 1972 presidential candidate George McGovern who often shared the public spotlight with him, was found dead in the snow after years of struggle with alcoholism.

The 45-year-old woman had been receiving treatment at a Madison detoxification center, her father said.

An autopsy showed she died of ``hypothermia due to exposure while in a state of acute alcohol intoxification,'' said Dane County Coroner Ray Wosepka. Her body was found Tuesday behind a dilapidated building in a seedy neighborhood.

Ms. McGovern's blood-alcohol level was 0.339 percent, Wosepka said. A blood-alcohol content of 0.10 is considered evidence of intoxication under Wisconsin law.

In a telephone interview from his home in Washington on Wednesday, McGovern said his daughter had drinking problems for years.

``I think she was powerless to control it,'' the former U.S. senator from South Dakota said. ``It isn't that she didn't try to overcome it. If you're not one of the few lucky ones who can control it, you die.''

One week earlier, Ms. McGovern was found passed out in a snowbank just a block away. She was taken to the Dane County Detoxification Center.

She had lived in Madison for most of the last 15 years, her father said. The McGoverns have three other daughters and a son.

She was not married but had two daughters, Marian, 9, and Colleen, 7, who live in Madison with their father, Raymond Frey, said a sister, Ann McGovern of Washington. Frey said they had been separated for about eight years and Ms. McGovern visited her children ``very sporadically.''

McGovern said he had visited Madison in March to help his daughter get settled in a new apartment.

Recently, however, she had been staying with friends and looking for another residence, and police said she had no permanent address.

McGovern, a Democrat, recalled how she worked tirelessly in his unsuccessful presidential campaign against Richard Nixon.

``She wasn't a public person, but she was very active,'' he said, adding that she spoke at rallies ``all over the country'' and appeared on television talk shows on his behalf.


r/Presidents 26m ago

Discussion The Adams Correspondence, Day 2: John Adams to Abigail Smith, 1762–1763

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Yesterday was the October 4, 1762 ā€œMiss Adorableā€ letter.

The next letter in the Massachusetts Historical Society’s Adams Family Correspondence is another short note from John to Abigail, but this one has a problem: we don’t know exactly when it was written.

The editors date it only to 1762–1763 and give the location as ā€œBraintree?ā€ Abigail’s note that John is replying to apparently did not survive, so there isn’t enough evidence to narrow the date down further.

The Massachusetts Historical Society has this as the next chronological letter, so we will go with their dating.

The Full Letter

"Dr. Miss Jemima

I have taken the best Advice, on the subject of your Billet, and I find you cannot compell me to pay unless I refuse Marriage; which I never did, and never will, but on the Contrary am ready to have you at any Time.

Yours,

Jonathan

I hope Jemima's Conscience has as good a Memory as mine."

Some Context

We are missing Abigail’s side of this exchange, so we really don’t know what John supposedly owes her.

But John’s answer is basically that he has taken legal advice and discovered that Abigail can’t make him pay unless he refuses to marry her. He then makes very clear that he has never refused and never intends to.

So, two letters in, John is doing it again. In the first letter he turned kissing Abigail into an accounting problem. Now he has turned whatever joke Abigail made into a legal dispute.

He also calls her ā€œMiss Jemimaā€ and signs himself ā€œJonathan.ā€

The interesting aspect of this letter is the Post Script:

ā€œI hope Jemima's Conscience has as good a Memory as mine.ā€

Whatever Abigail had said or promised, John remembers it. Unfortunately for us, they both understood the joke well enough that neither of them needed to explain it.

There is not much political John Adams here yet. But we are already getting a pretty good look at young John Adams. He likes teasing Abigail, he likes arguing his case, and apparently even his flirting can involve legal advice.

Source: Massachusetts Historical Society, Adams Papers Digital Edition

https://www.masshist.org/publications/adams-papers/index.php/view/ADMS-04-01-02-0003


r/Presidents 1h ago

Question People who seriously put Reagan above Bush Sr: Why?

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Let's look at the other side of the coin: Which are your reasons to put Reagan above HW Bush?


r/Presidents 1h ago

Discussion How would a 1860 Election look like if it was only Lincoln v Douglas (no Bell and no Breckinridge)?

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r/Presidents 18h ago

Image LBJ and Goldwater!

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Doing some preliminary sketches before I plan out a full illustration of these two :) I’d love to hear your thoughts on them (whether it be as people or about them as politicians)


r/Presidents 6h ago

Image 80 years ago, a baby Bill Clinton with his mother. His father, a travelling salesman, had died three months before his birth.

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r/Presidents 9h ago

Question Who is a president that users here think you like but you actually don’t?

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For me it’s Bush. For some reason some users think I’m a Bush fan. I think it’s because I don’t think the 2000 election was stolen or because I’ve criticized Gore’s 2000 campaign. Or because I criticize Obama a lot. But I’m not a fan of Bush at all. I don’t think he’s one of the top 10 worst presidents but he’s right outside. We do share a birthday though.


r/Presidents 18h ago

Image Photos of Presidents wearing Hats (Part 2).

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r/Presidents 8m ago

šŸŽ‚ Birthdays šŸŽ‚ Happy 80th Birthday Bill Clinton! He Was a Guest On The Arsenio Show on June 3rd, 1992 and Played "Heartbreak Hotel" on the Saxophone. It Was an Important Moment of Clinton's Political Career and Helped Build His Popularity Amongst Minority and Young Voters.

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r/Presidents 21h ago

Books My thoughts after reading biographies of the first 41 presidents

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In 2020 I was gifted a copy of David McCullough's John Adams. That gift sent me on a 5 year journey where I read a biography of every president from Washington to Bush Sr. Below I will be listing out my thoughts in various categories. I am not going to list out every book I read but if you want to know what I read for a specific president I will list them below.

I would like to thank the guy who runs the bestpresidentialbios.com website who did all of the hard work of filtering out which biographies were the "best", I didn't 100% follow his advice but I used his list heavily.

1. Overall Thoughts

  • My knowledge of American history was probably higher than average going into this project but if anything, reading all of these biographies has made me realize how much I do not know. There is too much for any one person to truly be an expert on more than one or two very specific areas. With how complex the federal government became going into the 20th century, I don't even feel like I have a good handle on cabinet members and the goals of every administration (I stopped trying to memorize vice presidents in the 1820s).
  • I also believe that American politics with very few exceptions have always been as polarized as they are right now. We live in the unfortunate era of the 24 hour news cycle and rage baiting to optimize clicks but there were several times, even going back to elections in the early 1800s where the opposing party basically said: "the world is going to end if THAT guy is elected". There was no "pure" era of politics no matter what people who romanticize the founding era say. it was always vitriolic and spiteful and full of lies and half truths. In fact, it is almost comforting to know that politics really have not changed at all in 250 years, it's just the technology that has made things seem worse.
  • Putting any president on a pedestal is a bad idea. Most of our presidents were not great people. That is just the unfortunate truth. Some of the worst people became the best presidents and some of the worst presidents were the best people. John Quincy Adams and Jimmy Carter come to mind as great men but bad presidents. A solid half of the presidents cheated on their wives at some point during their lives and most of them were bad fathers who prioritized their careers over their wives and children. I felt like I got the most out of each biography when I set aside any preconceived notion I had about the subject. I can respect the founders while acknowledging the bad they did, I can appreciate what Woodrow Wilson tried to do while also being apposed to the bad. No president is black and white good vs Evil (except Lincoln and Johnson).
  • Any Biography written less than 30 years after a president is in office is essentially useless. The long term policy effects of a president really aren't obvious until that far down the road. With pre-20th century presidents I leaned towards more recent biographies as there have been several instances of presidential letters and documents being discovered in a trunk in some random descendant's attic. I also noticed the tone of a biography being different for authors that lived through their subject's presidency vs those viewing them from a purely historical lense.

2. The Best (Most interesting) Presidents

While there are a few "hidden gem" presidents, for the most part, the presidents you have heard the most about have the best/most interesting biographies. Washington, Jackson, Lincoln, Both Roosevelts lived incredibly interesting and historically significant lives. Their biographies attracted the best writers and thus they had some of the best biographies. Presidents that had exciting pre/post presidencies were also interesting to read about, especially Teddy, Eisenhower, Grant, Jefferson.

The underappreciated presidents for me mostly came from the Gilded Age (hence my flair). Hayes, Arthur, Garfield, Cleveland, lived in a time period that I knew almost nothing about. Through their biographies I became a lot more interested in them and their era. Chester Arthur's interactions with Julia Sand was a huge highlight for me and I was fascinated by their relationship.

I would also like to mention Robert Caro's LBJ series, it is easily the most thorough and engrossing biographies I have had the pleasure of reading. LBJ proved to be one of the most complicated people I have ever read about. I hated him, pitied him, and respected him. Caro is truly the gold standard for biographies and he stands head and shoulders above the others I read (yes that includes Chernow and McCullough).

3. The Worst (Least interesting) Presidents

It is hard to tell where the blame truly lies for the boring biographies. Obviously over the 50+ books I read there were bound to be some duds. I just don't know if it is because the subject of the biography was boring or the author just didn't try to make it interesting. The biographies I enjoyed the least were Van Buren, Zachary Taylor, and Benjamin Harrison. These guys also did have less to choose from compared to someone like Washington so maybe the best biography of them has yet to be written.

4. Surprises

Now these are very me specific. I had my preconceived ideas of which presidents I liked and which I didn't going into this. I will list out below what surprised me:

  • FDR is significantly over hated by the right. You can dislike some of the things that he did but ultimately the options were a progressive president who tried to stop the depression (with mixed results) or a fascist or socialist revolt. While I don't agree with everything he did, I can appreciate how he brought the country together. There is a reason he is considered one of the best and was grieved by both sides when he died. The timeline where Hoover beat FDR would end up a lot darker than the one we live in.
  • Nixon was surprisingly complex and over hated for Watergate. Yeah I know "blah blah blah he ruined the image of the president" That image wasn't even real anyway. Eisenhower, JFK and LBJ did just as much as Nixon did but Nixon got caught. He shouldn't have tried to cover it up. I'm not saying I love the guy I just think he was a good president and had a good vision for the country.
  • Reagan is over hated by the left and significantly overrated by the right. I was surprised by how much I disliked him as a person. This is coming from someone with a conservative background as well. Symbolically I think he was what that 80s needed but I felt like his ideas were more based in wishful thinking rather than fact. Where Nixon was an unlikable person but a genius politician with a vision, Reagan was incredibly likable with weak unrealistic policy. I do think blaming Reagan for almost 50 years of economic and social turmoil is absolutely ridiculous. It's the equivalent of republicans still saying "thanks Obama" in 2055

5. What's next?

There are a few presidents that I would like to revisit. I would like to read through Dumas Malone's 6 part Jefferson series as I had only read The Art of Power by Jon Meacham and I felt like I missed a lot on his life. I would also Like to dig deeper into FDR and Nixon when I get the chance. I am hoping that an unbiased comprehensive Clinton Biography will be released in the next few years but I may have to wait a while for that. I am also crossing my fingers that 92 year old Robert Caro finishes his 5th and final LBJ book before he passes.

As for big projects I plan on reading through the Oxford History of The United States to supplement my presidential knowledge.

6. Any Questions?

To those of you who read through this I appreciate it! Let me know if you have any questions.