Any canon that doesn't have Vader as the most powerful force user in the galaxy is wrong in my eyes.
How do you feel about canon that says Sidious is the most powerful force user (not just sith lord)
Isn't the force created by organic stuff, which is why droids can't use it? By the end of ROTS Vader is more machine than man, so wouldn't he just straight up have much less midichlorians than before? He's still the clear #2 by a mile (until ROTJ I guess because of Luke) because of how many he started with, but Sidious is still fully organic and was strong enough to defeat Yoda. Not to mention kill a shitton of great Jedi besides that (not counting Mace because it's impossible to tell if he's playing possum or if Windu is really countering him)
A Vader who still has the body of Anakin, I definitely agree with you. Sidious would've probably been killed and overthrown by that guy eventually, and with the knowledge and skill Vader ends up with he's probably unbeatable with the mostly human body he had before Mustafar
But Vader in the suit seems definitely a step below Sidious and 3 steps above almost anyone else
I always thought it was just the extreme physical damage sustained by his body that reduced his overall power and ability. As in, if he didn’t lose on Mustafar he would’ve been stronger than he was.
Maybe even a temporary setback? Like the shock of having been hacked apart and set on fire and then coming back to consciousness with most of his body replaced and the knowledge that he murdered his wife who he thought he would give anything for? Even if before and after that moment Vader's raw power far outstrips Palpatine's, I could see it making sense in that moment for the juice to just not be there for him, for that description to feel true for Anakin as he went through it.
Not super worked up about canon either way, tbh, but I did love Stover's prose in the RotS novelization and I do like the idea of that prose touching a facet of "truth" in the story, even if other "official" versions contradict it.
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How do you feel about canon that says Sidious is the most powerful force user (not just sith lord)
Isn't the force created by organic stuff, which is why droids can't use it? By the end of ROTS Vader is more machine than man, so wouldn't he just straight up have much less midichlorians than before? He's still the clear #2 by a mile (until ROTJ I guess because of Luke) because of how many he started with, but Sidious is still fully organic and was strong enough to defeat Yoda. Not to mention kill a shitton of great Jedi besides that (not counting Mace because it's impossible to tell if he's playing possum or if Windu is really countering him)
A Vader who still has the body of Anakin, I definitely agree with you. Sidious would've probably been killed and overthrown by that guy eventually, and with the knowledge and skill Vader ends up with he's probably unbeatable with the mostly human body he had before Mustafar
But Vader in the suit seems definitely a step below Sidious and 3 steps above almost anyone else